funny, since when is $12 billion gone from ubs and 4 billion gone from DB, and LEH raising cash good fundementals? why should ubs and leh be up 15%? i wasnt a perma bull and now switched, ive been saying this market was too high all of 2007 pretty much, and i think it is too high now. I doubt the writeoffs are done, and it will take along time for those companies to make back those losses and there is no way the market should be rallying almost 400 points today!