The March to World War 3

The Iron (well, barbed wire) Curtain is back.

How a chilling ‘barbed curtain’ is falling across Europe as 2,000-mile frontiers with Russia and Belarus are fortified
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20457728/chilling-barbed-curtain-europe-borders-russia-belarus/

A NEW "barbed curtain" is falling across Europe as fearful nations reinforce their frontiers against Putin's "hybrid war" on the West.

Poland, Lithuania and Finland are erecting steel walls and razor wire fences on the borders with Russia and its ally Belarus.

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(Much more at above url)
 
Alexa has 'predicted' date World War 3 will start - and there's not long to go
A chilling viral video that shows the popular digital assistant predicting that the Third World War will break out after a Russian invasion of Germany may not be quite what it seems
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/alexa-predicted-date-world-war-29084986

A viral video that originated on TikTok shows the device responding to a question about the end of the world by saying: "World War 3 starts on November 23, 2023 at 6:05pm, when Russia launches an attack against Germany”.
 
vanzandt said:
BS.

I know you hate hearing this, but land for peace.
Putin's a madman, he escalates, the West escalates>>> He escalates again.

Do you think he's gonna throw in the towel?
Do you think he's gonna cede power?

Make no mistake, I am not in any way taking his side, belittling the atrocities of his troops, ... nothing.
But I am saying, as I have said from the start... paint this man into a corner, and the results could be disastrous.

You will say>>> should we cower in the face of that?
I will say.... should we roll the dice?

The only hope is a coup. And tbh, I think he's too smart to have not put dozens of safeguards in place to prevent that eventuality.

Again, don't start hating on me for what I just wrote, I am strictly providing narrative as I see things.

There's a very large majority of people that think Trump was all for whatever happened on Jan. 6th.
Let's just say they're right.
Now, bearing in mind the actions of someone like Trump in the U.S. .... what do you think someone like f'ing Putin will do when faced with an ultimatum 100X worse.?

Trump said "march down the street."
Are you willing to bet millions of lives on what Putin will say? Worse yet... do?

I ain't saying its right, and I ain't saying it's fair.... I am saying, it is what it is.
I hope I'm wrong.

EDIT:
GWB did not write the above quote, that came from the article. I cut and paste wrong.

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Putin is already at war with Europe. There is only one way to stop him
Simon Tisdall
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He has weaponised food, energy and refugees, spreading economic and political pain across the continent. Sanctions don’t work, a land for peace deal would be a disaster. Only the military route remains
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These idiot armchair warmongers are just that, mere idiots. Even those in the military will tell you that NATO is not prepared to fight a war with Russia. Logistical problems at the top of it and NATO expending weapons and ammo in Ukraine to feed Zelensky's demands to continue the war, have depleted stocks of heavy weapons and ammo. If the 70,000 US troops in Poland with Polish and Romanian troops come inside Ukraine to save Ukraine from defeat, you know direct war with Russia will happen. Russian troops will fight US troops contrary to the armchair warmongers thinking this is going to be a cakewalk for the US. And it will be very catastrophic for NATO since, Russia has been on a war footing for a while and its factories have been churning out heavy weapons including tanks, howitzers, missiles and lots of ammo. Russia will be fully armed and loaded if a confrontation with the US happens.
 
smallfil said:
These idiot armchair warmongers are just that, mere idiots. Even those in the military will tell you that NATO is not prepared to fight a war with Russia. Logistical problems at the top of it and NATO expending weapons and ammo in Ukraine to feed Zelensky's demands to continue the war, have depleted stocks of heavy weapons and ammo. If the 70,000 US troops in Poland with Polish and Romanian troops come inside Ukraine to save Ukraine from defeat, you know direct war with Russia will happen. Russian troops will fight US troops contrary to the armchair warmongers thinking this is going to be a cakewalk for the US. And it will be very catastrophic for NATO since, Russia has been on a war footing for a while and its factories have been churning out heavy weapons including tanks, howitzers, missiles and lots of ammo. Russia will be fully armed and loaded if a confrontation with the US happens.
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gwb-trading said:
Putin to turn Ukraine conflict into full-scale European war, says STEPAN STEPANENKO
With talks of further mobilisation to shore up his war efforts against Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin inferred in recent comments to the press that he is willing to consider the nuclear option should Kyiv continue to resist.
https://www.express.co.uk/comment/e...ne-war-Russian-conscription-Russia-losing-war
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I think people should come to their senses and realize who they are listening to. A full scale European war is, in today's world, impossible. Russia is incapable of it. If they can't handle a war limited to the Ukraine there is no reason to think they could handle a full scale war against the combined NATO Nations. He's bluffing. He won't use nuclear weapons. Why. Because if he does, it would mean the end of him.

The NATO Countries are playing into his hands by not quickly giving the Ukrainians all they need to quickly end this conflict. In a sense we are almost as irresponsible as Putin. By delaying and dragging this war out with our silly stepwise escalations we are causing thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. If you are a decision maker directly involved, a soldier, or a civilian directly at risk, you can not think clearly. Those of us who re not at risk are the only ones that can think clearly in such situations. It's always easier to see a war correctly from a great distance than it is when you are directly embroiled in it. Just a fact of human nature.

What should be clear to everyone looking on from a distance is that a delayed, stepwise response by the Western Powers is accomplishing very little beyond increasing risk by giving Putin's military forces time to correct their deficiencies.
 
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piezoe said:
I think people should come to their senses and realize who they are listening to. A full scale European war is, in today's world, impossible. Russia is incapable of it. If they can't handle a war limited to the Ukraine there is no reason to think they could handle a full scale war against the combined NATO Nations. He's bluffing. He won't use nuclear weapons. Why. Because if he does, it would mean the end of him.

The NATO Countries are playing into his hands by not quickly giving the Ukrainians all they need to quickly end this conflict. In a sense we are almost as irresponsible as Putin. By delaying and dragging this war out with our silly stepwise escalations we are causing thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. If you are a decision maker directly involved, a soldier, or a civilian directly at risk, you can not think clearly. Those of us who re not at risk are the only ones that can think clearly in such situations. It's always easier to see a war correctly from a great distance than it is when you are directly embroiled in it. Just a fact of human nature.

What should be clear to everyone looking on from a distance is that a delayed, stepwise response by the Western Powers is accomplishing very little beyond increasing risk by giving Putin's military forces time to correct their deficiencies.
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The Russians are expending 50 to 60 thousand rounds of artillery a day apparently causing huge losses.
Decent sources are saying they've been training a large professional force for the last few months and are prepping for a large scale spring offensive.
 
WWarrior said:
The Russians are expending 50 to 60 thousand rounds of artillery a day apparently causing huge losses.
Decent sources are saying they've been training a large professional force for the last few months and are prepping for a large scale spring offensive.
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It appears that by now the Russians must have realized their miscalculations. They Started this war ill prepared for the fight the Ukrainians are putting up. That gave Ukraine a tremendous advantage. Why squander that advantage, which is what delay and a stepwise response will do. The NATO forces will eventually have to supply long range strike capability and air planes. Why wait? Do it now!
 
piezoe said:
I think people should come to their senses and realize who they are listening to. A full scale European war is, in today's world, impossible. Russia is incapable of it. If they can't handle a war limited to the Ukraine there is no reason to think they could handle a full scale war against the combined NATO Nations. He's bluffing. He won't use nuclear weapons. Why. Because if he does, it would mean the end of him.

The NATO Countries are playing into his hands by not quickly giving the Ukrainians all they need to quickly end this conflict. In a sense we are almost as irresponsible as Putin. By delaying and dragging this war out with our silly stepwise escalations we are causing thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. If you are a decision maker directly involved, a soldier, or a civilian directly at risk, you can not think clearly. Those of us who re not at risk are the only ones that can think clearly in such situations. It's always easier to see a war correctly from a great distance than it is when you are directly embroiled in it. Just a fact of human nature.

What should be clear to everyone looking on from a distance is that a delayed, stepwise response by the Western Powers is accomplishing very little beyond increasing risk by giving Putin's military forces time to correct their deficiencies.
More...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-ukraine-needs-more-weapons-faster-2023-01-29/
 
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