The M.I.N.D Game

[ozzietrader]

Quote from elite34s:

OK class, I have just got a second message, so I must go.

I am to make sure that it is Heinz Beans, or else my pallet may, shall we say, just not feel the best.

I will try and check the answers later on, if not I will see you all tomorrow, and, with that, I take my leave for now.

instinct?

 

[insaneinvestor]

Quote from ozzietrader:

instinct?

I agree with this one.

I am still confused however as to what is going on with all these posts to filter out...

Are we talking about the MIND still? the 4WH, the generals, the foot prints, or a new topic all together.

The big picture is still a bunch of pieces to me.

 

[insaneinvestor]

Quote from Xtrader59:

My current belief is: there is no profitable trading system. No profitable setup. No profitable software. No profitable methodology. There are only profitable minds.

Trading systems, setups, methods are only filters through which your mind looks at the mutant chaos (the market). A "profitable" filter used by a non profitable mind will result in losses.

Over the chaos there is only one thing worth attention: the footprints of the big money. You can see them from time to time. Not with your indicators or with any technical stuff. Your non biased mind will see it through the clouds and smoke and blood and cries and arrogance and theories and lies and illusions and...

Shut up! That' enough you idiot!

A.M.E.N

 

[Gyrene Dertra]

This may be heading toward some sort of lesson on writing options for a living, but I don't want to "post off-topic" or rush Derivman before he is ready to delve into that. His posts tend to be long and drawn out, and if you challenge him on that he will threaten to report you to "the mods"...John C. Bulldozer will let us know when he is good and ready.

 

[cd23]

Quote from Xtrader59:

My

snip...

Over the chaos there is only one thing worth attention: the footprints of the big money. You can see them from time to time. Not with your indicators or with any technical stuff.



snip...

Big money "shows" all of the time.

The best thing to do is front run it.

"Tells' are used for front running.

You may want to follow up with a reading of Larry Harris. In particular the sections on parasitic trading and within that the sections on the anticipatory trading characteristics.

Once you give consideration to the value od being "pushed" by big money, you will then see the value of using the appropriate leading signalling devices and their particular sequencing of outputs to you.

Of of the aspects of trading that is very important is the understanding of the sequential structure appropriate market signals.

It is very important to understand that if their is a sequence of signals, how to focus on the signals that immediately preceed actual trading signals. Think of how anyone can see orders placed in the markets. anyone placing such orders is concentrating on aspects of price and price advantages. This is an illchosen way to do trading.

It is possible to use timing in lieu of price, however. When are person trades to front run and then be pushed by price movement, he has made the decision to use the sequencing of signals to trade more effectively.

The sequences may be written out as a way to become familiar with the sequences and their timing. At some point they become deja vu in their repeated appearance.

In time it becomes possible for a person to look for specific (big money) signals that afford the person the opportunity to front run big money which moves markets because of the premium big money is forced to pay. The premium is so high that big money cannot make as much money as the markets are offering.

The signal in the sequence just ahead of the buy signal allows anyone ample time to subsequently anter the market under the most favorable conditions.

There are many many tools for doing this in addition to manual trading. You are presently closing many doors unnecessarily.

 

[BlowFish]

Quote from insaneinvestor:

I agree with this one.

I am still confused however as to what is going on with all these posts to filter out...

Are we talking about the MIND still? the 4WH, the generals, the foot prints, or a new topic all together.

The big picture is still a bunch of pieces to me.

Quote from elite34s:

OK class, back to The Generals, as we will re-visit our study of the mind as we progress.

We must first now look at some basics in relation to The Generals.

We will concentrate on the Stock Market.

"What do we need to fully understand about the Stock Market"

Hint:

It is like a raging river, but is not in the correct place !

 

[Dackster]

Quote from cd23:

Big money "shows" all of the time.

The best thing to do is front run it.

"Tells' are used for front running.

You may want to follow up with a reading of Larry Harris. In particular the sections on parasitic trading and within that the sections on the anticipatory trading characteristics.

Once you give consideration to the value od being "pushed" by big money, you will then see the value of using the appropriate leading signalling devices and their particular sequencing of outputs to you.

Of of the aspects of trading that is very important is the understanding of the sequential structure appropriate market signals.

It is very important to understand that if their is a sequence of signals, how to focus on the signals that immediately preceed actual trading signals. Think of how anyone can see orders placed in the markets. anyone placing such orders is concentrating on aspects of price and price advantages. This is an illchosen way to do trading.

It is possible to use timing in lieu of price, however. When are person trades to front run and then be pushed by price movement, he has made the decision to use the sequencing of signals to trade more effectively.

The sequences may be written out as a way to become familiar with the sequences and their timing. At some point they become deja vu in their repeated appearance.

In time it becomes possible for a person to look for specific (big money) signals that afford the person the opportunity to front run big money which moves markets because of the premium big money is forced to pay. The premium is so high that big money cannot make as much money as the markets are offering.

The signal in the sequence just ahead of the buy signal allows anyone ample time to subsequently anter the market under the most favorable conditions.

There are many many tools for doing this in addition to manual trading. You are presently closing many doors unnecessarily.

Early trend recognition! I use symmetry and volume? Works for me.

 

[BlowFish]

Are we talking about animals that tend to herd? Not sure how that relates to rivers except if one bison drinks they all do.

 

[nutmeg]

Quote from Xtrader59:

My current belief is: there is no profitable trading system. No profitable setup. No profitable software. No profitable methodology. There are only profitable minds.

Trading systems, setups, methods are only filters through which your mind looks at the mutant chaos (the market). A "profitable" filter used by a non profitable mind will result in losses.

Over the chaos there is only one thing worth attention: the footprints of the big money. You can see them from time to time. Not with your indicators or with any technical stuff. Your non biased mind will see it through the clouds and smoke and blood and cries and arrogance and theories and lies and illusions and...

Shut up! That' enough you idiot!

Good post.

 

[ozzietrader]

Quote from scarylarry:

If u add an 11th line thats says:
"I'm a prick who knows absofuckinglutley nothing but still bullshits others to hear myself talk" I think you will get a lot more ET'ers to voice a bullshit opinion.

You think he was describing himself with those 10 points? Sheesh, good luck with trading.