The Left's New Hero

ZZZ. if you are comparing marriage to a military obligation, you are beyond pathetic. Do 1/2 of our military quit? Hardly think so. This puke will get his 15 minutes of fame, and then go the brig. He made a commitmant, to serve his country, and backed out on it. the backing out part i'm sure you are familar with. The former, you will never have.
 
I was talking about the war and the possibility of a conscientious objector, and you are thinking of cake.

Puts it in perspective....

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You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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If there were not a greater penalty for quitting the military, than there is for quitting a marriage, we might see more quit the military...

Yes, he did make a commitment, and yes, he did change his mind (happens all the time in life) and yes he will face the consequences....

If he did quit on the basis of genuine conscientious objection, with full knowledge of the punishment, then that is a brave thing to do, and perhaps quite heroic.

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ZZZ. if you are comparing marriage to a military obligation, you are beyond pathetic. Do 1/2 of our military quit? Hardly think so. This puke will get his 15 minutes of fame, and then go the brig. He made a commitmant, to serve his country, and backed out on it. the backing out part i'm sure you are familar with. The former, you will never have.
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Let's do this.

I agree to disagree.

You can do the same, or start a flame war.

This is not a case you can win, nor can I, because neither of us know his real motives, nor is there any way to determine what is morally right or wrong in this situation.

Just opinions....

I am not going to even comment on the red herrings and strawmen arguments.

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Sorry, but I have not made your point at all about moral relativism and situational ethics.

Were American soldiers being ordered to kill innocents then you could equate Watada's refusal to do his duty as tantamount to a German soldier who refuses orders to kill Jews. Of course that is not the case, so your argument is indelibly flawed.

You are trying to apply your own moral relativistic ideals to a situation that doesn't exist, a mistake made by many.

As for Watada, I haven't said he is a coward. I think by his actions he has shown that he's horribly misguided and terribly confused, but I don't know him personally so I can't say he's a coward or not. But I do not believe he is a hero as many on the Left are embracing him as.

By the way, was it the policy of the colonists to target and murder innocent civilians, including women and children?
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Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

I was talking about the war and the possibility of a conscientious objector, and you are thinking of cake.

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Actually I was thinking of a fruit and you came to mind.
 
Yes, and you were probably thinking of sticking that fruit up your azz to pleasure yourself....

Sorry, that is a job you will have to do on your own...not interested.

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Actually I was thinking of a fruit and you came to mind.
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Yes, and you were probably thinking of sticking that fruit up your azz to pleasure yourself....

Sorry, that is a job you will have to do on your own...not interested.
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Again with the homosexual tendencies. Is there a reason why it's so pervasive in your drivel? Your momma was a big influence in your life I see. Perhaps a tad bit... overzealous... with the young Zz?
 
You can pull the fruit out now, assuming you are done....

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Again with the homosexual tendencies. Is there a reason why it's so pervasive in your drivel? Your momma was a big influence in your life I see. Perhaps a tad bit... overzealous... with the young Zz?
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zzzz, once again, you manage to evade the question..What is more important the military or a marriage? You eqaute the 2 as equal, I say you are insane.
 
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