The kidnapped British soldiers

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Do you have definite proof that the British soldiers were not in Iranian waters?

You miss the point. Seizing them was an act of war. Putting them on trial or otherwise mistreating them is a war crime.

The ball is in Tony Blair's court. He can play the Iranian's game, as Jimmy Carter did. Or he can go all in and call their bluff.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You miss the point. Seizing them was an act of war.

When the Chinese seized the US airmen a few years ago, did the China declare war on the US?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You miss the point. Seizing them was an act of war. Putting them on trial or otherwise mistreating them is a war crime.

The ball is in Tony Blair's court. He can play the Iranian's game, as Jimmy Carter did. Or he can go all in and call their bluff.
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"Seizing them was an act of war. " - How was this a war crime, post facts to support this claim". Putting them on trial.....is a war crime." also need facts for this statement.
This is all just Bullshit politics by the Iranians and also in the Brits responses, they may or may not of been in their waters. Really can you believe either side and does it make a rats ass if they accidentially went in Iran's waters. In the end the Brits will be home safe and sound and this will all mean nothing in the long run and short run for that matter, Unless you were long or short oil.
 
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In the end the Brits will be home safe and sound and this will all mean nothing in the long run
No, in the long and short run the UK is royally humiliated and disgraced, 15 of its "bravest" are kidnapped in broad daylight without even attempting to fight back and the only thing the UK can do is beg the scumbags who did it, express their impotent outrage and cancel a few visas for Iranian businessmen. In the long and short run the entire world will know that they can spit in the face of the UK (and entire Western Europe for that matter) and get away with it.

Long live the queen!!!
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

This type of incident illustrates the vast moral gulf between the civilized western countries and thug regimes like Iran. We value human life, unlike the islamofacists.

we exterminated the native americans. we institutionalized slavery of africans. we pardoned nazi and japanese war criminals responsible for the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, if they agreed to work for us after WW2. we empowered blood thirsty dictators who massacred their people in south america if they agreed to be not be communist. we certainly do not have a track record of valuing human life very high. how much is 3,245 american lives worth? is it worth control of iraqi oil? our government thinks so.

let's be honest. we arent exactly angels ourselves. and to say that western countries are more "civilized" is simply racist.
 
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as demonstrated by the life of the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqis attributable to the current Iraq war... :confused:

Who said that all the prisoners who were tortured in Abu Graib were terrorists? You have definite proof about that?

Do you have definite proof that the British soldiers were not in Iranian waters?


See Trader is a perfect example of the ignorance that permeates the muslim ranks. However outlandish the news item is if it portrays America or Isreal negatively, it must be true.

All the muslims cry that their leaders are corrupt and oppressing them but they in turn, they believe every spoonfed lie they are told.


"Few Western news outlets give credence to Iran's claim that the British had strayed 500 meters into Iranian waters. The Telegraph says that GPS coordinates released by the Ministry of Defense show that their troops were well outside of Iranian territory. What's more, according to the BBC, Iran at first claimed that the capture occurred at one set of coordinates, and when it was pointed out that this was in Iraqi waters, they gave a second reading, this time in Iranian territory. "
 
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The head scarf is obligatory for all women visiting or living in Iran. One can hardly call it a humiliation.

Well, as far as I can tell the kidnapped Brit isn't "living in Iran" nor is she a muslim nor an Iranian citizen.

If we took a burqua off of a muslim women and paraded her face on TV there would be absolute outrage by the crazies.

They riot over a cartoon for god sakes, why do you believe these are rational clear thinking people?
 
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Well, as far as I can tell the kidnapped Brit isn't "living in Iran" nor is she a muslim nor an Iranian citizen.

If we took a burqua off of a muslim women and paraded her face on TV there would be absolute outrage by the crazies.

They riot over a cartoon for god sakes, why do you believe these are rational clear thinking people?

Muslims rational? Ha Ha, good one. Shit i can't stop laughing.

As for the Brits, Tony Blair and his cronys have been an embarrasment to the uk people for quite a while now, and their european counterparts are no better.

They are lying, corrupt, cowards. The lot of them.

Churchill will be turning in his grave.
 
Quote from Publisher:

Who started most illegal wars?
Iran, Saudi-Arabia or the United States?

Iran is a pacifist country, so they have greater moral authority than the US. Guantanamo Bay is an Israeli style torture facility, without any respect for the most basic of human rights. I don't see countries like Iran having similar institutions. Perhaps that's because they don't have the Jewish "influences" that have infested the Western world.

Iran a pacifist country eh?

There you go again with your obsessive lying. Now what have i told you to do?
 
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