The Jack Hershey Public Record Thread

[sellindexvol66]

Quote from atticus:

It doesn't seem to stop anyone else on this board. I for one would respect a blotter post, not that I am necessarily a detractor.

How do you "try" to post a blotter? And most blotters have time-stamps. It's comical that a guy who "earns 5X the daily ATR" cannot produce a profitable day even while cheating on fills. Forget the blotter and show a profit on this thread.

IOW, who needs a blotter when he's losing?

Lol, u have some patience ..

Blotters not posted because there are no trades or profit....not unlike countless guys on et.

Good luck, if you get a blotter out of him or any others you call out...I will pay for the best full course dinner you can find near you..of course you have to put me up for a night.

 

[jack hershey]

Quote from frenchfry:

What are "Lui's band flow charts"? Would you mind showing an example?

draw one yourself.

Put A p1 in the upper left.

move over a bar or two an put a T1 in the lower left.

You have band A

all other bands are related.

Put P2 in side the band on one sheet.

Do another sheet with P2 outside the A band.

A band is the first zone* of a trend. that is it contains the first of three legs (the sub fractals) of the trend

B band is the second move of the trend. The peak of the leg is P2; the trough is T2 (P). For short (meaning with brevity) this is T2P

You may have missed it but there is a chart called "The Pattern"

In a trend the first two legs are a dominat one and a non dominant one.

as you know the CW types are sidelined for this (the above words) and just frightened following their last experience.

as you do not remember, we sharpen our witts to do the last leg. Why? Weel we are "looking for" What? The end of the trend.

So repeat as Luis did the above stuff for the last leg.

Think of the band name for this band.

If you can scan and post your drawing, show it to the world. This band comes up after 38 pieces of the 56 have been put on the flow chart.
the bands are named after the letters of the alphabet A through K except for PP whose 10 most common elements I have just posted once again.

there are two themes here:

Atticus is repeating unsuccessfully his quest for finding out what "unbelievable" trading is. But he cannot do it since his mind canot go through an irreversable process.

You are asking me to prevent you from doing work. I would rather you do follow the path of others who have gone before you. I just give you the method since you lack perception. you get perception from working on a piece of paper. No one in ET can scan and post.

you may not grasp what I am asking you to do as a drill. So go ahead and do failure to learn. this is a thee step process. Waiting to do work is not a step. you make a mess, you fail, you correct the mess and get it right.

* There are books about zones. These zones are btting and hoping zones. they allow people to bullshit themsleves mentally to build records on the way out of trading careers.

my zones are what Braithwaite calls information bandwidth. tends fail one way or another. leaving the information band of that pair of events is the most common.

 

[atticus]

Quote from jack hershey:



Atticus is repeating unsuccessfully his quest for finding out what "unbelievable" trading is. But he cannot do it since his mind canot go through an irreversable process.

You're correct. I am addicted to earning... and you have the grammar of a 5yo ESL student.

 

[atticus]

Quote from sellindexvol66:

Lol, u have some patience ..

Blotters not posted because there are no trades or profit....not unlike countless guys on et.

Good luck, if you get a blotter out of him or any others you call out...I will pay for the best full course dinner you can find near you..of course you have to put me up for a night.

You know that bet is safe! If they produce then I am buying! Do you snore?

 

[jack hershey]

Quote from atticus:

Be a pal and provide a link.

Here's what you find out.

ET is really fucked up and has no continuity. we worked here for 6 years and moved out to another web site. all trades were called here for years before the trades in PVT and SCT. Prints were done to demo each concept. these were done in forums and on chat in ET. Chat has dissappeared from ET and probably so have the files.

there in chat people learned to not do what you do since it was time consuming for people who were becoming traders.

New people like you are fucked and insistent that they are the Sun and the world revolves around them.

Do a search on "5x the ATR". This was in your first post here today and those are your words.

I accomodated you and asked what you use as an ATR. you did not respond. we dropped that heme.

Later you got to the point that I had a losing day.

I did go flat when I got overloaded by the challenge of getting the seconds of trades on the board. I do not know prices and I do not know seconds. I have to find these things out by reding on another computer. I use mice.

You are a detractor to any trader who has been around for a while. that is just the way it is.

Your confederrate says you have patience. good for him and his thoughts.

 

[wrbtrader]

Quote from atticus:

Link. Just one.

You're asking for links to something that was posted many years ago before you joined. I myself (not a hershey fan) remember such (I used the user name NihabaAshi back then) about users of his methods that they did post real-time trades, real-time charts and an "occasional" blotter here and there...but nothing that lasted more than several consecutive weeks/months/years.

He had a more dedicated following back then in comparison to today. Most of them moved to other online forums with the methods because there was better moderating in comparison to the ongoing fighting here at ET.

Also, Jack Hershey wasn't known as Jack Hershey back then. I can't remember the name but it started with a "g" or something like grob I think. Thus, if you're looking for links, I recommend you look for them via his old user name grob because I doubt he's going to post the links for you.

In addition, a few followers of his method that moved to other forums like T2W and Traderslaboratory calling out real-time trades but I don't think any blotters or statements was posted. Further, you may want to look up the user names spydertrader and tikitrader...some real-time calls and statements and I think they were the most public users of the methods because they seem to be the ones "educating" others about key concepts of the grob/hershey method.

Yet, over the years I've been here, I've seen folks set up threads for hershey and gang or setup free chat rooms for them to make real-time calls. Hershey and gang usually didn't show up be

 

[atticus]

Quote from wrbtrader:

You're asking for links to something that was posted many years ago before you joined. I myself (not a hershey fan) remember such (I used the user name NihabaAshi back then) about users of his methods that they did post real-time trades, real-time charts and an "occasional" blotter here and there...but nothing that lasted more than several consecutive weeks/months/years.

He had a more dedicated following back then in comparison to today. Most of them moved to other online forums with the methods because there was better moderating in comparison to the ongoing fighting here at ET.

Also, Jack Hershey wasn't known as Jack Hershey back then. I can't remember the name but it started with a "g" or something like grob I think. Thus, if you're looking for links, I recommend you look for them via his old user name grob because I doubt he's going to post the links for you.

In addition, a few followers of his method that moved to other forums like T2W and Traderslaboratory calling out real-time trades but I don't think any blotters or statements was posted. Further, you may want to look up the user names spydertrader and tikitrader...some real-time calls and statements and I think they were the most public users of the methods because they seem to be the ones "educating" others about key concepts of the grob/hershey method.

Yet, over the years I've been here, I've seen folks set up threads for hershey and gang or setup free chat rooms for them to make real-time calls. Hershey and gang usually didn't show up be

I've been here since '02. I know about his Grob alias and all posts should be intact unless deleted.

So where is the f*cking link?

 

[jack hershey]

here is something for you.

It is part of a day and shows partial fills on market orders, I believe. It looks like a record of a segment of time. I did take a snagit of it so it is not real or anyhing like real, it is just two fills a few minutes apart.

I do have boxes of unopened envelopes that were send multiple times each day.

 

[jack hershey]

Quote from atticus:

I've been here since '02. I know about his Grob alias and all posts should be intact unless deleted.

So where is the f*cking link?

what you are saying is that you cannot remember.

that's how it goes.

did you come to Tucson?

You may wish to try other web sites as suggested.

Grob109 is the ship model I flew. you will see pics of it along the way.

If you have been here since 2002, this thread is not going to work out for you ewither. you could have been in the chat rooms, etc ...

My print will not help you; it is just a few minutes and some partial fills that show my money velocity for some contracts during given seconds of time. It may show I do reversal trading but I do not think so for your mind.

You have been on the hunt for 11 years. WOW .......

 

[wrbtrader]

Quote from atticus:

I've been here since '02. I know about his Grob alias and all posts should be intact unless deleted.

So where is the f*cking link?

Doesn't ET search function of user names still work @ http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/search.php?s=

Type in grob or spydertrader or tikitrader. Those user names have tons of information and many links. Maybe you don't want to revisit those ancient threads again. I know I don't...it was a pain to sort through with all the debates, arguments, threats...during a time period when many other members including the anti-hershey folks got fed up and left ET permanently.

By the way, all posts are NOT intact in reference to the way ET was back then. Any thread that contain arguments, personal name calling back in the day...they were quickly deleted, edited or closed. I remember one particular thread that contain a broker statement by one of grob's followers getting deleted because of all the personal name calling and threats. Also, ET deleted all of its "Chat Room" logs soon after shutting down the chat room...it was too difficult to moderate I think.

Don't you remember the crap that was going on in the chat room if you've been here since 2002. Not a pretty sight.

Some folks acted as if they were going to arrange meetings at street corners for real fights.

In contrast to today, the same crap repeated today would just basically get kicked down into the "chit chat" section to protect Baron's bandwidth/visits counts.