The Ivanovich Memorial Thread - Ivan has left the building...

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Quote from Ivanovich:

Your posts in this thread have had so many inaccuracies that it's difficult to know where to begin when addressing them.

That and the fact that you're this old user really makes arguing with anything you say useless.

That's right, I kept all the IPs, proxies and history. Not to mention that anyone reading your posts can easily tell your style. It's never changed.
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I use a subscription proxy service and have represented that in the forum. The service rotates the ip addresses through a 128-bit encrypted tunnel. The servers are in Arizona, Texas, the Netherlands, NJ, Denver, Virginia...many other random places. I also only use the wi-fi at places like Starbucks, on the road when I travel or at places of business which are not fixed. I have a subscription with ATT wi-fi that I use when I am not at Starbucks. I dont have home internet...which is why I use an encrypted VPN for added security while on the road doing my business.

So since I use a subscription proxy service, you automatically assume that I am another alias. Maybe that guy on a bike in the tights is Floyd Landis?

Guys like Ivan are pure entertainment as their insane delusions pour out on the internet for all to see. This is a perfect example of why ET is such great entertainment and why I spend my time here. Ivan would be a great trader if he just traded what he saw then follow the road of delusion believing all guys riding a bike are Landis and all guys using proxy servers are some other alias.

So if I am this other alias? Then maybe you lost the battle and I win. I know, I shouldnt be playing games with someone who is undergoing delusions. Hehe...

Dont worry Ivan. Folks with insane delusions can be successful too. Look at Jim Cramer.
 
Quote from William Rennick:

Ivan was the best, who's the dooshbag that took his place:D
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after all the shit that Ivan got, it is my duty to advise the Mod in charge of the Trading forum to remain anonymous.

Johny Shortie Cochran Jr. Out :cool:
 
Quote from retaildaytrader:


Let me give you a fine example. There is a certain very popular blog out there with a very active comments section. The owner of that blog has made quite a few of the commenters moderators. When there is even a slightly trollish post, the IP address and poster get banned right away. On that blog, setup after setup is posted with most of them failing and going wrong. As people get frustrated, they start to post more trollish posts and they too get banned. So its entertainment seeing setup after setup fail, but all of the posters are still intact.
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take the last sentence first ..... its entertainment for you that behind the scenes the many traders who took those setups lost money?

taking the rest ... where at ET has this happened?
 
Quote from trefoil:

You're a BS artist, that's for sure.
As for education on how to trade, it's all over the place on here. It's even in the general attitude, which deadbroke doesn't get either, but that's OK: trade with the market. Predicting the random is silly.
It's one of those things you either get or you don't. Like this board, actually.
I'd advise you to leave, knowing you would never take that advice.
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If I don't get it, I can tell you for sure, I'd love to get it. :)

But after being here for 10 months ..... here are my conclusions and more importantly, why I'm still here.

you say education on trading is in the general attitude ....

bollox! This place is loaded to the hilt with liars and pretenders. They all lose money the same way!!! :D :D All are money losers in a broader sense of the term.
In any other place in real life these people would be thrown out on their asses. Incompetence is stratospherically HIGH here.

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But as hopeless as it is, is there a better trading place than ET? ..... No

Could I get lucky and some changes made here so that I get what I came here to learn? ... Yes

Are there some other things I like about ET? Yes, the structure is good, I like baron and the mod team (elsewhere I've seen dirty mods even worse than LA cops). Baron hit the jackpot with the high tolerance match for real-life bad language. No other site can match ET for this.
 
Quote from retaildaytrader:

You are not going to find out how to trade from any public message board. Even if there were 100 Ivan's then you still would not be able to learn how to trade profitably.


Let me give you a little advice. If you look to learn, then pick up the more popular trading books...read them. Do not follow the advice of others. Do not watch the fianancial news, cancel your subscriptions and just figure it out on your own.

If you look for an education here then you will not find it.
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(1) Forget about the other boards. Let's just talk about only ET.

I agree that it is now very unlikely that the "learn to trade realtime" will come from an individual in a method - but you see, I've already picked up 3 great macro things from TraderZones and 1 excellent tidbit from a realtime trader here at ET - the latter is not any trading advice or method per se, it was something that was said, that fired an idea within me - this is helping bigtime ... and there might be more like this .... which could lead to ... it coming together ...

(2) I have no subscriptions, don't ask for advice, and I've shitcanned all trading books as worthless. Financial news on the other hand, now that's entertainment. :)

(3) You say I will not be able to find an education here! I'll say I came pretty close to it, in fact was right on the threshold of it - but then Ivan left. If he had stayed or the owner could see that Ivan was an asset of superior quality, I believe some big changes would be made - then when successful traders who've forsaken this place, see the improvements, they might come back. ET would then shine like a star and if so, who the fck in his right mind would want to leave? ... it would be like a continuing education on improvements in techniques or whatever ....
 
Quote from retaildaytrader:

Here is a concept that Ivanovich could not figure out. We tried to tell him about this formula on several occasions, but he would not hear it. He called me a psycho, but instead I tried to explain the secret formula.

I stopped trying to explain the formula a while ago, but drew it up on a chalkboard.

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If Ivanovich truly understood this concept, then he would have been a more effective moderator.
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As funny as the pic is, you're wrong that Ivan didn't understand it. He even said sthg to that effect a couple times.

But not everybody at ET is like what you portray - sure many are, maybe even most are, but there are some silent ones who probably just look on in dismay. Its these silent ones I would like to hear from. I'm not going to say any names, but in my forex thread I came across 2 such individuals. They were also probably waiting for some major change at ET before they decided to offer any serious help.
 
I am 100% certain that if you were to meet any of the people behind these aliases in real life then you would be surprised on how different they are when compared to your expectations.

I would not assume or believe anything about the folks who author these articles. Even if I met them in real life, then I would still not make any assumptions or believe anything. It takes several weeks to several years of one-on-one in-person meetings to really get to know and trust someone. Even after several years, you may still never to get to really "know" a person. There are some people that I would never trust even after seeing them everyday for the last several years. In any even, getting to know a person is not possible over an internet forum.

Believe what you want to believe, but the fact is the internet is fantasy and illusion. A true fool is one who believes what they see on the internet.
 
Now that everyone has said their final words. It is now time lower the Ivanovich alias into the grave.

Baron...Joe, you can now properly close this thread...

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