The Iraq "Civil War" -

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August 23, 2007

SouthAmerica: Reply to Acronym

Yesterday I was waiting for my doctors appointment and was on the waiting area waiting for my turn – and they had a television on the waiting area showing Fox TV cable channel – and I had no choice other than listen to George W. Bush's speech.

He was going on and on regarding Japan, and South Korea and democracy – but democracy and independence it does not apply when it comes to Taiwan.

As usual his Blah, Blah, Blah about independence and democracy it does not apply to places where it is inconvenient – for example Taiwan in Asia, Kurdistan in the Middle East.

Then he mentioned Vietnam – a war that he was hiding from in the 1970’s – and so on.

The neocons want to change the history of Vietnam with wishful thinking.
Sure the United States was just one more bombing away from victory.

The legacy of Vietnam is: 58,000 American soldiers dead during a ten-year conflict. Plus 150,000 Vietnam veterans have committed suicide since the United States lost that war in the mid 1970’s.

The latest total American casualties from the Vietnam War is = 208,000 American soldiers deaths.


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August 23, 2007

SouthAmerica: Reply to Acronym

Yesterday I was waiting for my doctors appointment and was on the waiting area waiting for my turn – and they had a television on the waiting area showing Fox TV cable channel – and I had no choice other than listen to George W. Bush's speech.

He was going on and on regarding Japan, and South Korea and democracy – but democracy and independence it does not apply when it comes to Taiwan.

As usual his Blah, Blah, Blah about independence and democracy it does not apply to places where it is inconvenient – for example Taiwan in Asia, Kurdistan in the Middle East.

Then he mentioned Vietnam – a war that he was hiding from in the 1970’s – and so on.

The neocons want to change the history of Vietnam with wishful thinking.
Sure the United States was just one more bombing away from victory.

The legacy of Vietnam is: 58,000 American soldiers dead during a ten-year conflict. Plus 150,000 Vietnam veterans have committed suicide since the United States lost that war in the mid 1970’s.

The latest total American casualties from the Vietnam War is = 208,000 American soldiers deaths.


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Sure, but even thats ignoring the elaphant in the room.
That bombing the crap out of other countries, has a surprising tendency , to favor the "enemy" as it were.
Would anyone care, to provide an "official" estimate of TOTAL casualties for vietnam? Er, vietnamese casualties that is.

They were slaughtered, hand over fist, and it kept going because-north vietnam knew they could supply infinite numbers of troops, straight out of school, the population could sustain it. Indefinetely, in fact, they wouldnt have bothered otherwise.

The obvious solution re; iraq, well, more cluster bombs, that'll fix it. Brilliant strategy.

Its a total F*ck up.

The only thing that has me wondering, is how saddam kept a lid on the place, for so long, despite his being a cia stooge from the beginning, he really must have done a great job there, considering .
 
Guess what? I'm still waiting for this "civil war" that never happened. Sheesh.

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This “civil war” should have happened a few years ago, and by now, hundreds of thousands would have been killed. We get staged shootings and bombings on a daily basis, but there is no evidence of a popular grass roots sectarian uprising going on, let alone a civil war. Iraq has Sunnis and Shiites. America has blacks and whites. I didn’t recall any civil war following the Rodney King riots.

This is not some wishful thinking held by people who want Iraq to succeed. It’s all about the common sense fact that you can’t make a causal link between the suicide bombings staged by our enemies on a daily basis, and the hearts and minds of 26 million Iraqis. Most Iraqis are tired of war and the last thing they want is a civil war.

Of course, our media elites want to ignore this and remain hysterical while they continue with their selective reporting and analysis, re-reporting, and manipulation of the facts ---all in line with their annoying political Freudian slips and closed-minded superstitions.

They see troublemakers trying to light a wet log every day and they call it a bonfire. Sheesh.

I’m still waiting for this civil war.
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May 25, 2008

SouthAmerica: Reply to Sam321

To tell you the truth I have no idea what is going on in Iraq. I have tuned off that war from my life just about 100 percent. I don’t watch on television or read on the newspapers or the internet about anything that is going on in Iraq.

In the last 9 months the Iraq war faded away 100 percent from our conversations and nobody cares about that war anymore. That war does not exist as far as we are concerned. I don’t know a single person who knows an American who is serving in Iraq. I have not talked about Iraq with a single person in the last 9 months.

Basically not a single person that I know gives a shit about that war anymore, and people are not paying attention to that war – after you disconnect from that war – in the world that you live here in the US there is no more a war going on in Iraq.

In my world that war has been over for a while.

Do you still talk about the Iraq war with your friends and relatives?

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Dr. Zhivodka: Then you haven't being paying attention.


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May 26, 2008

SouthAmerica: Everybody is saturated regarding the war in Iraq and the same old stuff about Israel.

Nobody wants to talk about these subjects and most people don’t give a shit about what is going on in that area of the world.

I read somewhere that the television in Brazil also was covering less and less these subjects on Brazilian TV – and when an executive of a major TV Network was asked why they had cut the coverage of the war on the Middle East he said that they had to do that because they were losing their audience every time they started talking about that subject – the audience changed their TV’s to another channel. People were saturated and they did not want to know what was happening in that area of the world regarding war and terrorism, and Israel.

You have to keep in mind that most people have more important things to do and to think about regarding their personal lives. People are worried about inflation, about the price of food and gas, about the price of everything that are going sky high. They are thinking about foreclosures, about collapsing real estate prices, about job losses, about sky high health costs, and so on.

When it seems like the world is collapsing all around you then most people don’t have the time and energy to worry about some war that they don’t know anybody that is participating on that war. It becomes a foreign war for all practical purposes.

If you avoid watching the news spins that they show on television about the war and you don’t waste your time reading about it on the newspapers or in the internet. Then you have eliminated that war from your immediate life.

And since not a single person ever brings up that subject then the Iraq war is over and not different of some civil war in the Congo or Sudan that you catch a little sound bite here and there about it.

You should try some time to eliminate the Iraq war from your life, and you would understand what I am talking about.

I still don’t know what is going on in Iraq right now, and the only reason I am talking about it it’s because someone decided to resuscitate the Iraq War on this forum.

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Easy jack hole....no one was talking to you. I was talking to the myopian Sam.

BTW: can you regale us with tales of the Brazilian Police massacring the poor and indigent on the streets of Rio?

I love that story.




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Dr. Zhivodka: Then you haven't being paying attention.


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May 26, 2008

SouthAmerica: Everybody is saturated regarding the war in Iraq and the same old stuff about Israel.

Nobody wants to talk about these subjects and most people don’t give a shit about what is going on in that area of the world.

I read somewhere that the television in Brazil also was covering less and less these subjects on Brazilian TV – and when an executive of a major TV Network was asked why they had cut the coverage of the war on the Middle East he said that they had to do that because they were losing their audience every time they started talking about that subject – the audience changed their TV’s to another channel. People were saturated and they did not want to know what was happening in that area of the world regarding war and terrorism, and Israel.

You have to keep in mind that most people have more important things to do and to think about regarding their personal lives. People are worried about inflation, about the price of food and gas, about the price of everything that are going sky high. They are thinking about foreclosures, about collapsing real estate prices, about job losses, about sky high health costs, and so on.

When it seems like the world is collapsing all around you then most people don’t have the time and energy to worry about some war that they don’t know anybody that is participating on that war. It becomes a foreign war for all practical purposes.

If you avoid watching the news spins that they show on television about the war and you don’t waste your time reading about it on the newspapers or in the internet. Then you have eliminated that war from your immediate life.

And since not a single person ever brings up that subject then the Iraq war is over and not different of some civil war in the Congo or Sudan that you catch a little sound bite here and there about it.

You should try some time to eliminate the Iraq war from your life, and you would understand what I am talking about.

I still don’t know what is going on in Iraq right now, and the only reason I am talking about it it’s because someone decided to resuscitate the Iraq War on this forum.

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26 millon people...3 million of which constitute the "brain drain" whom had the means to leave Iraq to Jordon and England.

Otherwise you're many years behind the fact. I won't waste my time educating you on differences between the Shi'a militia loyal to Iran ....and the killing....and the Sunni insurgencies loyal to to many other nations.

http://www.mideasti.org/scholars/editorial/sunni-insurgency-iraq
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi_Army


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26 million people. 20 people get killed. ooooooooo, civil war!!! Still waiting.
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