Good. I am fine with that. Lets have our kids go back to school without masks... and I will accept wearing a mask indoors (in public) til we reach herd immunity wherever I am at the time.
The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....
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I know, but at least Ricter is not making illogical or unscientific arguments for the sake of taking the lefty side.
I have to commend him for keeping his powder dry and not being a moron... unlike the other lefties on this thread.
I have to commend him for keeping his powder dry and not being a moron... unlike the other lefties on this thread.
Hey, what happened to "this will be the last reply I make to you on this board", are the good times over?
Disagree. Ricter supports *anything* that is damaging to the United States. GWB is just a little off-kilter since Covid arrived.
Hey GWB I just noticed the rejection by the UK govt was pure bullshit... they created a strawman..
I did not read anyone claiming an infected low risk person won't pass it on to the high risk.
That is why the high risk must protect themselves...
you can read the declaration here...
https://gbdeclaration.org/
This was the bullshit by the UK govt...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-boris-johnson-great-barrington-b862393.html
“But what I would also say is that it is not possible to rely on an unproven assumption that it is possible for people who are at lower risk, should they contract the virus, to avoid subsequently transmitting it to those who are at a higher risk and would face a higher risks of ending up in hospital, or worse in an intensive care unit.”
I did not read anyone claiming an infected low risk person won't pass it on to the high risk.
That is why the high risk must protect themselves...
you can read the declaration here...
https://gbdeclaration.org/
This was the bullshit by the UK govt...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-boris-johnson-great-barrington-b862393.html
“But what I would also say is that it is not possible to rely on an unproven assumption that it is possible for people who are at lower risk, should they contract the virus, to avoid subsequently transmitting it to those who are at a higher risk and would face a higher risks of ending up in hospital, or worse in an intensive care unit.”
There's been a sharp increase in home schooling (I posted a link earlier in another thread) that showed a 40% increase in the parents requests to find out more info about home schooling in North America.
Yet, it does create an interesting problem...many want to home school because they do not want their children to bring home an infection from school to a vulnerable family member and the other 1/2 wants to home school because they don't like the health guidelines (face mask wearing) for children at school.
Back to the topic of this thread...there's an interesting graph that shows the number of deaths since March 1st to today October 7th.
By March 19th...Sweden overtakes the below listed countries in the number of infection / deaths.
United States, Canada, South Korea, Brazil, Denmark, Norway and Finland
- South Korea and Brazil did not lockdown but they did have restrictions similar to Sweden
It continues getting interesting by today October 7th...Sweden and South Korea are stabilized while Brazil and everybody else continues getting worst.
The enormous differences can't be ignored...what's going on in South Korea that's so much different than the rest of the world regardless if the world did a full lockdown, lockdown lite or no lockdown ???
- A Study on Herd Immunity of COVID-19 in South Korea: Using a Stochastic Economic-Epidemiological Model @ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10640-020-00439-8#rightslink
What it doesn't go into detail is the importance of the cultural habits during a Pandemic or Infectious outbreak. South Korea has one of the best healthcare systems in the world and I've personally experienced it because I've lived in South Korea for about 2 years.
More importantly, it has a healthcare system more suited to dealing with Covid-19 or any other infectious disease outbreaks.
My point with the above that I see a grave flaw in all of these discussions about herd immunity. The critical variables are genetics of the population, healthcare system and cultural habits. Sadly, some countries (e.g. United States) just do not have what it takes to achieve herd immunity and must then rely on waiting for a vaccine to do it for them.
South Korea is not betting on their "no lockdown" to result in herd immunity. Instead, they're waiting for a vaccine to ensure they achieve herd immunity while keeping the number of deaths very low.
October 7th (today) South Korea still at the bottom but more interesting...Brazil is at the top and it did not do a full lockdown and it has a leader with the same Covid-19 beliefs as the leader of the United States.
This is why there's a flaw with the "blame the lockdown" mentality. Brazil smashes that blame spectacularly.
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