Thanks for your response.
And by doing that, what you did show was how your last reply is based on logical fallacy as are your other replies
Many prophecies working together do not by themselves, make themselves true.
I really don't even need any bias to understand how an imaginary Messianic concept is exactly what it is - imaginary.
As already said, I carefully considered your “evidence”. It’s pretty much all the same circular argument grounded on nothing else but logical fallacy.
Bible evidence isn’t evidence the Bible is true, no matter how much more Bible you keep throwing at it.
You’re just repeating the same false argument over and over but that won’t make it any the more reasonable. It just doesn’t work. If you want to make a grounded logical or reasonable argument, you cannot use more Bible to say the Bible is true.
There’s really nothing scholarly about a "Prophetic Perfect Tense".
It must mean that by using the Isaiah 9:6 passage word for word, Christians are also prophesying a messiah to come in their future.
So “a child” is not yet born, "a son is" not yet given. Christians 2,000 years ago must also have used the "Prophetic Perfect Tense" if Isiah did.
It was Hebrew rabbis who concocted this verb tense which is neither used nor accepted anywhere else as literary form outside of the Bible.
Seeing how Jews don’t believe a messiah has "come", you could say it’s something of a bear trap.
You may want to think more carefully about using it in the future or should that be in the present, or maybe in the past?!
A completely imaginary concept and a set of self-contradicting plans containing many witnesses as the fictional creations of numerous imaginative authors over thousands of years, is no evidence that would stand in court, or for that matter, even stand reasoning.
When people hear an imaginary concept speak out loud, the only evidence that provides is they’re suffering from a psychiatric disorder, or writing make-believe to convince those gullible enough to believe them.
Not true. I said no such thing.
The Bible is evidence of how highly creative superstitious Jews with daddy issues wrote down their fears, hopes and political objectives in the self-righteous context of a powerful all-seeing imaginary God, as so many have done before they did and have done since.
I said I would not accept, nor should anyone accept, the use of the same thing as evidence for itself, including a defense attorney who is claiming to offer sound, reasonable and reliable evidence. It isn’t a case of not wanting evidence examined. It simply isn’t evidence grounded on anything but itself.
If Marvel said Spiderman spoke, it’s absurd to use Marvel as evidence that Spiderman spoke. If the Bible says God spoke, it is absurd to use the Bible as evidence that God spoke.
Both imaginary concepts cannot use their own books as evidence for what their own books say is true. And it’s no use using DC stories to claim Marvel is true anymore than trying to use the Hebrew Scriptures to claim the Christian Bible is true.
Jews indeed generally and often wrote of a ‘chosen one’ with a special role, sent by their imaginary God, as did various other versions of Hebrew text. Dead Sea Scrolls describe how a messiah was not also being God at the same time, as the Christian version has it, but would however be someone with Red Hair and live to a ripe Old Age. That’s no prophesy for a "Mighty God" or an "Everlasting Father” in the shape of the Western Christian Jesus who is invariably portrayed as white with blond hair and supposed to actually be God, which must mean he committed suicide around the age of 30 to 40 years old to save everyone from the sins he gave them in the first place.
Like forcing COVID-19 onto people and then saying they’re forgiven for catching it.
Until you are prepared to grasp the logic of why it is not sound reasoning to use Bible stories to claim Bible stories are true, you will never make a sound or reasonable or reliable argument.
On the other hand you've given very good argument for unrelentingly blind, uncompromising religious faith.
Thanks once again for the conversation.
And by doing that, what you did show was how your last reply is based on logical fallacy as are your other replies
Many prophecies working together do not by themselves, make themselves true.
I really don't even need any bias to understand how an imaginary Messianic concept is exactly what it is - imaginary.
As already said, I carefully considered your “evidence”. It’s pretty much all the same circular argument grounded on nothing else but logical fallacy.
Bible evidence isn’t evidence the Bible is true, no matter how much more Bible you keep throwing at it.
You’re just repeating the same false argument over and over but that won’t make it any the more reasonable. It just doesn’t work. If you want to make a grounded logical or reasonable argument, you cannot use more Bible to say the Bible is true.
There’s really nothing scholarly about a "Prophetic Perfect Tense".
The prophetic perfect tense is a verb tense that some claim is used by the prophets in the Hebrew Bible. This literary technique refers to future events in the past tense. Many scholars contest the existence of this tense, claiming that all of the events ascribed to prophetic perfect can be understood to have indeed occurred in the past.
Furthermore, this "Prophetic Perfect Tense" idea bites back hard!
It must mean that by using the Isaiah 9:6 passage word for word, Christians are also prophesying a messiah to come in their future.
So “a child” is not yet born, "a son is" not yet given. Christians 2,000 years ago must also have used the "Prophetic Perfect Tense" if Isiah did.
It was Hebrew rabbis who concocted this verb tense which is neither used nor accepted anywhere else as literary form outside of the Bible.
Seeing how Jews don’t believe a messiah has "come", you could say it’s something of a bear trap.
You may want to think more carefully about using it in the future or should that be in the present, or maybe in the past?!
A completely imaginary concept and a set of self-contradicting plans containing many witnesses as the fictional creations of numerous imaginative authors over thousands of years, is no evidence that would stand in court, or for that matter, even stand reasoning.
When people hear an imaginary concept speak out loud, the only evidence that provides is they’re suffering from a psychiatric disorder, or writing make-believe to convince those gullible enough to believe them.
Not true. I said no such thing.
The Bible is evidence of how highly creative superstitious Jews with daddy issues wrote down their fears, hopes and political objectives in the self-righteous context of a powerful all-seeing imaginary God, as so many have done before they did and have done since.
I said I would not accept, nor should anyone accept, the use of the same thing as evidence for itself, including a defense attorney who is claiming to offer sound, reasonable and reliable evidence. It isn’t a case of not wanting evidence examined. It simply isn’t evidence grounded on anything but itself.
If Marvel said Spiderman spoke, it’s absurd to use Marvel as evidence that Spiderman spoke. If the Bible says God spoke, it is absurd to use the Bible as evidence that God spoke.
Both imaginary concepts cannot use their own books as evidence for what their own books say is true. And it’s no use using DC stories to claim Marvel is true anymore than trying to use the Hebrew Scriptures to claim the Christian Bible is true.
Jews indeed generally and often wrote of a ‘chosen one’ with a special role, sent by their imaginary God, as did various other versions of Hebrew text. Dead Sea Scrolls describe how a messiah was not also being God at the same time, as the Christian version has it, but would however be someone with Red Hair and live to a ripe Old Age. That’s no prophesy for a "Mighty God" or an "Everlasting Father” in the shape of the Western Christian Jesus who is invariably portrayed as white with blond hair and supposed to actually be God, which must mean he committed suicide around the age of 30 to 40 years old to save everyone from the sins he gave them in the first place.
Like forcing COVID-19 onto people and then saying they’re forgiven for catching it.
Until you are prepared to grasp the logic of why it is not sound reasoning to use Bible stories to claim Bible stories are true, you will never make a sound or reasonable or reliable argument.
On the other hand you've given very good argument for unrelentingly blind, uncompromising religious faith.
Thanks once again for the conversation.
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