i get the concept here. What comes to mind is the Matrix. You're saying everything we see and "live" through is false. But apart from you stating that, I don't know how you got here. I'm trying to see how to agree that this is a possibility other than "some guy on the internet told me."
Let's start here.
The concept is that the real world that we know is not real, and that there is a living beyond this. What would be the purpose of subjecting us to such a falsity? Or am I being too literal?
Note: The following is an edited re-post of my last response here to this question, edited for misspellings and readability. Please use this version for reference.
It (this world) would be self induced (according to my thesis) through aberrations in normal psychology ( non normal functions of mind power). The "physical" world is more like psycho-somatic meta (mind) phenomenon that is never more hard-firm-dense than the mind itself (mind over matter). It has been described as an "illusion", "dream", or "mirage" (gospel of Thomas). The substance if a physical world is not really hard-dense except through the belief (faith) of wishing participants (wishing rather than willing).
There is only one participant divided into an apparent many. The organization of physical particles (physics) is mainly through intent, after which the mechanics of faith takes over and
manifests one's wishes. The seer sees what s/he wishes to see. This is not obvious hence the self deceiving nature of faith.
Ok thats more of a what and how. What about why?
Why is about a
quest for more . MORE should be capitalized . It's not a quest of anything that actually exists. It's like a thought exercise. It's not the exploration of evil or the absence of good as if those concepts existed. Neither is the intention to have less. Less is the functional consequence of exploring (through abnormal aberrations and functions of mind power) what might be
more than everything. This exploration is
conceptual (and can never be more than conceptual) because it goes off into the unknown
beyond the pale of the possible. Using building terms, it would be like blueprints that never actually got built (never became a reality). Archetypes. Theory. Concepts. Symbols. This is as far as "this world" (the manifest world of man) goes. It never becomes a "reality" as though it would last forever. It is made in an abnormal domain I call "imagination". Man is manifest as an "image " out of the foundry of this imaginative zone (think Twilight Zone). An image is an APPEARANCE (like a mirage). Man's world is everything a powerful imagination could imagine...
but which could never be true. The reason it's not true is because it is
not even possible. To understand this ask yourself if its possible to be dead and alive at the same time? Is it possible to be awake and asleep at the same time? To know and not know at the same time. Pregnant and not pregnant? Left and right? Hot and cold? Tall and small? In and out? High and low? Male and female? Black and white? Republican and Democrat? Finally , could you make good and evil (what is not good) coexist together in union? If you can somehow make these exclusive incompatibilities co-exist (in your experience) then you would have MORE than what is even possible. Not even Christ could make these impossibilities possible, and yet, a portion of the mind of Christ is abrogated for
an attempt to prove it can be done (made true). What is mutually exclusive is impossible to combine, yet the mind tries. It could only make them coexist by FORCE of FAITH. Indeed,
faith is synonymous with force, as deception (in this case self deception) is the most fundamental phenomenon of force. All additional scenarios of force derive from a basic
self deception about what is possible in order to gain MORE. Man's world is the manifestation of
an attempt to combine mutually exclusive qualities in order to achieve more. It is the reason one should "be careful what you wish for", as it is that manifestation of wishful thinking. It is "real" only to participants, embedded as actors. Again, there is
only one participant.
Mankind is still motivated by the same motives of the one participant. It is beyond man's purview to say/explain how or why he was "made". But I'm trying. I would not say it's an intent or attempt to subject oneself (deceive oneself) to a known falsity. I would say it's curiosity about what might be, only to find out later that it is actually a total self-deception that is potentially very damaging if any of the falsehoods were true/real.
Going back to what I call the original condition there were only known knowns, hence knowledge. The original Being (what i call "Christ") is the totality of everything known. So knowledge is always of the Self. There was (and still is) no such thing as faith, which is a theoretical opposite that cannot coexist with what is known (knowledge). Since knowledge is always of the Self, faith is always of another kind of "self". Faith is about changing the Self into something else, something fake, something it is not. What knows believes nothing, while what believes knows nothing. In a land of knowledge faith is anathema, while in a land of faith knowledge is anathema. Not surprisingly, in a narrative that glorifies the impossible union of mutually exclusive opposites (famous Jewish literature) so also is knowledge made into some kind of anathema worthy of punishment. In that strange fantasy land, it is wrong for man to have the same knowledge as his maker.
Going back once again to the original condition, the original state of Being includes everything that is possible (all things so-to-speak). Since the Self is everything, only the Self is possible. Beyond the possible is the "unknown", another "self" that might have "more". It is not as though a realm of the unknown exists (there is not other Self). It doesn't exist except through tricks one might play upon ones own mind (hence self deception). Thus, neither is it "evil" as we have come to experience it, since what does not exist cannot
be anything.
The intention to explore the unknown is not knowingly self-destructive. It is, after all, the unknown! Thus the exploration of the unknown (through self deceptive force of faith ) cannot be described as pre-meditated. Maybe it could be described as curiosity, only to find out just how destructive it is to the Self.
Theoretically if you start with everything and add more, you still have everything, except you now have more than what you thought you had in the beginning. In theory if it was ok to have everything before it's still
ok to have everything (only more). But to get more you will have to start playing tricks on your mind as it is impossible to have more (or be more....more about that later) than everything! The primary trick one must play is what I call IGNORANCE. Ignorance derives from a mind that knows everything already (doesn't need to, nor can it know more) but must ignore that fact in order to gain more "knowledge" so-called. One achieves this ignorance by being vigilant against actual knowledge so that faith can just make shit up as it goes. This is the basis of "enmity" between "the flesh" (the ignorant) versus the "spirit " (that which knows). Anyway, faith does not explore anything that actually exists. It makes shit up as it goes, manifests its shit, then forgets how it made the shit up. Man then comes along and explores faith's manifestation and, accumulating more and more observations man acquires "knowledge" so-called. This is the pathetic way man is able to gain MORE knowledge than even Christ! But in gaining this so-called knowledge, man loses the soul (original condition) of the one participant. As faith-based shit is exchanged for true knowledge, man's "soul" is "lost" in ever more darker and darker confusion about the Self.
So the impetus is MORE. This is still what motivates the extensions (mankind) of
the one original participant, which I've called "the prodigal son", but what ignorant minds might call "God". I avoid the term "devil" but that is also a term used for the "god of this world". For example, when sailors leave shore to go into the unknown to look for MORE unknown spices, these sailors manifest the very same kinds of motive that motivate what I call
the prodigal son. The sailors don't intend for themselves the pains of peril along the way. Peril (evil) is simply a functional consequence of their wishful thinking to add more to their wealth...a consequence of some kind of ignorance that breeds greed (a gratuitous wish for more). The further they go, the more likely they will be "lost" (confused about where they came from). The further they go the more lucky they will be to return "home" without permanent damage. Such is the quest of mankind, which is extremely far out from Reality. This is potentially damaging to the Self and does represent the destruction of the Self if it could be "true".
Going back once more to the original condition, the original Being (I call "Christ") both knows everything (believes nothing) and IS everything. So it knows it's Self. "Know thyself" is a wise philosophical appeal to cease and desist vigilant ignorance (work) of one's original condition, in order to rest in peace.
