The guy figured it out...

Yes, I can usually spot the player moving 1000 car lots on the ES, but he probably doesn't care if I put on 40 cars.
Please explain more, or give details without divulging your system.

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There are MMs in some futures market, they are called LMMs. I was just able to spot a player in one market and I can tell you it was the same one on the other side of my trades for the last 5 months...You can spot players in liquid markets too, it's just harder.
 
LOL... This one was predictable like...Well, never seen one predictable guy like this guy,lol... That was the edge in fact.
 
So if your edge was predictability, then do the same things but in an UNpredictable fashion.
Meaning if they now know in advance what you will do, do the opposite of what they expect.

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LOL... This one was predictable like...Well, never seen one predictable guy like this guy,lol... That was the edge in fact.
 
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Yes, I can usually spot the player moving 1000 car lots on the ES, but he probably doesn't care if I put on 40 cars.
Please explain more, or give details without divulging your system.

Yes that is because I am small that by spotting a big player, I can make money of him. You can't make money if you just know that one 1000 lots guy will play, but you can if you know at what time he will play for example, or what trick he uses before a big buying or a big selling , right?
 
So unless they have your IP, or the guy stopped trading, make the adjustments and continue. It should not be a major issue.

Quote from TraDaToR:

Yes that is because I am small that by spotting a big player, I can make money of him. You can't make money if you just know that one 1000 lots guy will play, but you can if you know at what time he will play for example , right?
 
Quote from munnyhunny:

So if your edge was predictability, then do the same things but in an UNpredictable fashion.
Meaning if they now know in advance what you will do, do the opposite of what they expect.

Bingo. That's what I'm working on. However, no way it will work as before.
 
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So unless they have your IP, or the guy stopped trading, make the adjustments and continue. It should not be a major issue.

It was just an example for ES. My stuff was quite different.
 
No I didn't say that. It was just an example.

You can spot someone from the way he trades, the algo he uses, the condition that triggers his trades, the size he shows, the time at which he trades... The trick is he figured my game and now has just twicked it a bit for it to be partially unpredictable...
 
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