The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart

Quote from bigdavediode:

How many cars were on the roads in 15,000 BC?

What exactly is he generalizing? That because some warming was not caused by humans therefore this warming cannot be caused by humans.

Here, let's put in different nouns: some (blank) was not caused by humans therefore no (blank) can be caused by humans, and let's see how the logic works:

Some fire is not caused by humans therefore no fire can be caused by humans.

Make any sense? Of course not.


The entire MMGW hoax is based on, well it got warmer in the 20th century, we burned fossil fuels in the 20th century so we must be at blame. The lie has been exposed.
 
Quote from drjekyllus:

The entire MMGW hoax is based on, well it got warmer in the 20th century, we burned fossil fuels in the 20th century so we must be at blame. The lie has been exposed.

Actually it is based on:

It is proven that mankind is producing billions of tons of CO2 per year.

It is proven that the CO2 increase in the atmosphere has come from man.

It is proven that CO2 is especially effective at absorbing and reemitting infra-red radiation.

It is proven that there has been global temperature increases since the industrial revolution.

It has been shown that the additional heat absorption of CO2 explains the extra global warmth.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Actually it is based on:

It is proven that mankind is producing billions of tons of CO2 per year.

It is proven that the CO2 increase in the atmosphere has come from man.

It is proven that CO2 is especially effective at absorbing and reemitting infra-red radiation.

It is proven that there has been global temperature increases since the industrial revolution.

It has been shown that the additional heat absorption of CO2 explains the extra global warmth.

BUT.......it has NOT been proven that the rise in temps is CAUSED by a rise in C02. Its coincidental, at best. But you keep posting, I like seeing you squirm. :D
 
Quote from Arnie:

BUT.......it has NOT been proven that the rise in temps is CAUSED by a rise in C02. Its coincidental, at best. But you keep posting, I like seeing you squirm. :D

So if one molecule absorbs a massive amount of heat, in your mind that doesn't prove anything about a quintillion molecules.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

It is proven that mankind is producing billions of tons of CO2 per year.

It has been shown that the additional heat absorption of CO2 explains the extra global warmth.

Since you never responded to my post before I will ask you again.

I have clearly shown with many sources showing CO2 contribution is only about 3 or 4% of the greenhouse effect. If you have another source (not some graph which somehow you can magically induce CO2 role is) please post it.

Now lets address what our greanhouse contribution is from CO2. Humans produce less the 5% of the total source of CO2 each year. If CO2 accounts for 4% of the total greenhouse effect then our total contribution is about 4% x 5% or 0.2%. So we have increased the greenhouse effect by 0.2%. Do you really think a 0.2% increase in the greenhouse effect is significant enough to have a major effect on the climate?
 
Quote from Matt8200:

Since you never responded to my post before I will ask you again.

I have clearly shown with many sources showing CO2 contribution is only about 3 or 4% of the greenhouse effect. If you have another source (not some graph which somehow you can magically induce CO2 role is) please post it.

Now lets address what our greanhouse contribution is from CO2. Humans produce less the 5% of the total source of CO2 each year. If CO2 accounts for 4% of the total greenhouse effect then our total contribution is about 4% x 5% or 0.2%. So we have increased the greenhouse effect by 0.2%. Do you really think a 0.2% increase in the greenhouse effect is significant enough to have a major effect on the climate?



DENIALIST!!!!! HERETIC!!!!!! FLAT-EARTHER!!!!!!


you no doubt believe the earth is 6000 years old!!!!



MOD: please delete his heresy from this thread, it's clearly hate-speech
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

So if one molecule absorbs a massive amount of heat, in your mind that doesn't prove anything about a quintillion molecules.

Just post the study that PROVES C02 causes GW. You can't beacuse it doesn't exist. All your studies and graph just show a correlation.

Everytime I go out after it rains, the sidewalk is wet. Does that PROVE wet sidewalks cause rain? Apparently it does in your world. :D
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Actually it is based on:

It is proven that mankind is producing billions of tons of CO2 per year.

It is proven that the CO2 increase in the atmosphere has come from man.

It is proven that CO2 is especially effective at absorbing and reemitting infra-red radiation.

It is proven that there has been global temperature increases since the industrial revolution.

It has been shown that the additional heat absorption of CO2 explains the extra global warmth.

CO2 is especially effective at absorbing infra-red radiation? In the grand scheme it really isn't. Water vapor it is proven to account for a lot more heat retention than CO2.

It has been proven that the global temperature has been increasing well before industrial revolution. You have been slammed countless times trying to pull this bogus argument and you lose on it everytime.

Nothing has been proven about any additional warming.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Water vapor is never ignored, not by the IPCC, not by current climate models, not by climatologists, not by anyone in the field.

I was reading a summary of the "Climate Change 1995: The Science of Climate Change " right off the IPCC website today:
"The atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, inter alia, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O) have grown significantly"
-- http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/climate-changes-1995/spm-science-of-climate-changes.pdf

Would you care to revise this statement? I sure don't see water vapor listed there.
 
More examples of how the IPCC totally ignores water vapor being a greenhouse gas.

"The emissions limitation proposals used in this Paper are expressed variously in terms of CO2 only or in terms of greenhouse gases. For the purposes of this Paper all the proposals are interpreted as applying to fossil CO2 emissions§7 alone. The reasons for using this approximation are given in Section 3. To fully meet the initial request of the SBSTA (i.e., to discuss the temperature and sea level implications of the emissions limitation proposals) in a comprehensive manner, it would be necessary to cover the full range of possible concentrations (taking into account sinks and sources) of other gases such as methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), tropospheric ozone (O3) and the halocarbons§, along with the full range of possibilities for sulphate aerosols§ derived from sulphur dioxide (SO2) emissions."

Implications of Proposed CO2 Emissions Limitations
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/technical-papers/paper-IV-en.pdf


"Assessing the general implications of Article 2, involving the stabilization of all greenhouse gases (i.e., not just CO2) is difficult because we lack clearly defined ranges for likely future emissions of methane, N2O, SO2 and other gases."

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Stabilization of Atmospheric Greenhouse Gases: Physical, Biological and Socio-Economic Implications
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/technical-papers/paper-III-en.pdf
 
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