People have told "scientists" that they are misreading the ice cores, often interpreting rings that are made intraday to being years... and it's the third millennium, we have instruments, we can measure the temperature of distant objects via direct measurement of energies... have you used a temperature probe that shines the laser on a targeted area and you can read the temperature? I have one, I can read your temperature from across the room by putting the dot on your head... science is fun, idiots like you are boring as hell....
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The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart
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People have told "scientists" that they are misreading the ice cores, often interpreting rings that are made intraday to being years... and it's the third millennium, we have instruments, we can measure the temperature of distant objects via direct measurement of energies... have you used a temperature probe that shines the laser on a targeted area and you can read the temperature? I have one, I can read your temperature from across the room by putting the dot on your head... science is fun, idiots like you are boring as hell....
Quote from Eight:
People have told "scientists" that they are misreading the ice cores, often interpreting rings that are made intraday to being years...
Even if that were true, which it isn't given that there have been multiple ice cores taken from massive distances apart such as Greenland and the antarctic, then you'd still have to disprove the coral evidence, tree ring data, boreholes, etc. etc.
and it's the third millennium, we have instruments, we can measure the temperature of distant objects via direct measurement of energies... have you used a temperature probe that shines the laser on a targeted area and you can read the temperature? I have one, I can read your temperature from across the room by putting the dot on your head... science is fun, idiots like you are boring as hell....
The term you're looking for is "IR thermography."
Just thought you might like to know.
Quote from Arnie:
There is not one study that proves the higer concentrations of C02 and methane CAUSE global warming. Not one. All that article and others like it say is that there is a correlation. It could be that the rise in temps causes a rise in C02.
which part of
"The temperature curve over the past 800,000 years matches the CO2 curve beautifully -- during glacial periods in which the climate is cold, there is less CO2 in the atmosphere," says Professor Thomas Blunier from the Centre for Ice and Climate at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen"
did you not understand?
and as to "there isn't one study - are you seriously claiming this as true????? proof? as to the opposite, you can start with the 121 studies, which are only a starting point, near the bottom of this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
Quote from bigdavediode:
There's no question about that at this point, as it's been proven that the CO2 comes from man via isotope measurements.
I'm not sure why, as even if the temperature was higher a few hundred thousand years ago that doesn't help us if we're trying to live in those conditions today.
Well, if someone is telling me global warming is man made, but the ROC of the uptrend does not suggest a breach of the prior high, I am going to be skeptical as to whether or not this not a normal occuring circadian rhythm that the planet is having.
CO2 is a naturally occuring gas on the surface of earth, so I would want data to suggest that man made CO2 is causing temps to accelerate on a curve that would suggest a breach of a temp zone established by a series of peaks to determine an upper and lower range.
Otherwise the planet is just doing it's thing.
Quote from ARealGannTrader:
Well, if someone is telling me global warming is man made, but the ROC of the uptrend does not suggest a breach of the prior high, I am going to be skeptical as to whether or not this not a normal occuring circadian rhythm that the planet is having.
If it is, then it's an even worse situation because CO2 emissions will exacerbate the situation.
CO2 is a naturally occuring gas on the surface of earth, so I would want data to suggest that man made CO2 is causing temps to accelerate on a curve that would suggest a breach of a temp zone established by a series of peaks to determine an upper and lower range.
Otherwise the planet is just doing it's thing.
Since you're familiar with logical fallacies, that's the naturalistic fallacy, where something is okay because it's "natural."
Quote from bigdavediode:
If it is, then it's an even worse situation because CO2 emissions will exacerbate the situation.
Since you're familiar with logical fallacies, that's the naturalistic fallacy, where something is okay because it's "natural."
I did not use it in that way. I would want to c data that CO2 created by man can be differentiated from CO2 that occurs naturally and that man made CO2 is the cause of present global warming and that it is producing data that would indicate a problem that is reversible by our actions. Has this data been gathered and has there been an attempt to falsify this data?
It appears that scientists cannot agree on this. Do u have data that would tip the scale, or have simply been convinced by images of dead seals and Katrina?
Quote from ARealGannTrader:
I did not use it in that way. I would want to c data that CO2 created by man can be differentiated from CO2 that occurs naturally and that man made CO2 is the cause of present global warming
Once again, yes, this is proven. If you don't like the isotope measurements then you can know that it's man made because there's only two places for the CO2 to come from, the oceans and land, and there have been at least 22 different studies proving that there's been no reduction in CO2 from the oceans.
and that it is producing data that would indicate a problem that is reversible by our actions. Has this data been gathered and has there been an attempt to falsify this data?
Of course, but it's been confirmed again and again. See the list I just gave you, ie. boreholes, ice cores, tree ring analysis, coral measurement, etc. etc.
It appears that scientists cannot agree on this. Do u have data that would tip the scale, or have simply been convinced by images of dead seals and Katrina?
What data would you like now?
Quote from TraderZones:
and as to "there isn't one study - are you seriously claiming this as true????? proof? as to the opposite, you can start with the 121 studies, which are only a starting point, near the bottom of this page:
Some people need 122 studies to convince them, and you're one short.
Quote from bigdavediode:
Some people need 122 studies to convince them, and you're one short.
and they do not grasp what will happen if the permafrost melts enough to really pour a lot of methane and CO2 into the air.
but they keep dancing and singing, questioning rigorous scientific alarm over what is happening. Corals and amphibians are already under unprecedented historic decline. Arctic animals are under unbelievable pressure. Half the penguin species are in serious decline.
it is like talking to stone.
I am a very conservative republican. But I also am degreed in biology. And folks, you just don't get it.
Quote from bigdavediode:
Once again, yes, this is proven. If you don't like the isotope measurements then you can know that it's man made because there's only two places for the CO2 to come from, the oceans and land, and there have been at least 22 different studies proving that there's been no reduction in CO2 from the oceans.
Of course, but it's been confirmed again and again. See the list I just gave you, ie. boreholes, ice cores, tree ring analysis, coral measurement, etc. etc.
What data would you like now?
okay, i will look more closely into it.