bigdavediode said it, it must be true. He watch Al Gore's movie. He is informed.
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The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart
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bigdavediode said it, it must be true. He watch Al Gore's movie. He is informed.
Quote from toho:
No - really. You mean that in a petition that has been going on for over a decade and has over 30000 signatories, one of them has actually died. Imagine that. What are the odds. Surely it must be a hoax then.
No, out of the five I Googled one appeared to be dead. One seems to be a dentist. None were climatologists.
Then there is your bogus dentist claim again. Are you trying to say there are 6500 dentist PhDs on the list?
There's no way to know as they don't supply information on the signers. I don't know how to make this any more clear to you: the bulk mail petition is a joke, it's not scientific, does not allow any investigation, has people signing it from outside of the field of climatology -- why do you insist on defending this?
You are the one being dishonest here. You have been caught fabricating facts.
No, and if I make a mistake (which I do) I admit it.
And as usual you are trying to distort and misrepresent what I have actually written. I am not avoiding anything. I have already answered this. Twice. No sane person would believe that there are 30000 climatologists on the list.
I haven't said that you think that. I have pointed out that even they claim only 39 climatologists -- but given that they are just going on trust of the signers, there's zero methods of verifying this.
As far as I know noone has claimed them to be clitmatologists. But I don't buy in to your strange notion that climatology has nothing to do with physics and that physicist signatories are somehow irrelevant.
Physics signatories are irrelevant as this is outside of their fields, just as mathematician signatories are irrelevant. Physicists do not have an understanding of climate -- at best, and this would apply to molecular physicists, they would have an understanding of molecules. Astrophysicists also do not have an understanding of climate.
I am willing to accept that national debt is man-made without proof from isotope measurements.
Please feel free to ask if you would like details on this area.
Quote from drjekyllus:
As the debate continues it is becoming painfully obvious that the Global Warming Cult has not provided any scientific evidence to support their hysterical views of life on planet Earth. They have adopted almost a religious aspect in their beliefs as they rely strickly on faith that they have not been lied to by their leaders. They are scam victims, and as such, they will cling to anything to fool themselves into thinking they were not scammed. At this point, they are clinging to the lie to shelter themselves from the pain of the truth.
A lot of evidence has been provided, including this page. But the Flat Earthers are unable to read. Were you unable to grasp the 800,000 year history just posted above???????????
And where is your evidence again? Finding mysterious scientists who disagree? The vast vast majority of true scientists think you flat earthers are ridiculous.
Quote from TraderZones:
A lot of evidence has been provided, including this page. But the Flat Earthers are unable to read. Were you unable to grasp the 800,000 year history just posted above???????????
And where is your evidence again? Finding mysterious scientists who disagree? The vast vast majority of true scientists think you flat earthers are ridiculous.
What history? Is the history accurate? Are you refering to Michael Mann and the history that he put together? Or are you refering to the climate data from 2008 where both NASA and NOAA were caught lying about the global temp? Is this data you are refering to?
Second of all, you are the folks trying to put forth the theory that we can control the climate, it is on you to provide the burden of proof. This whole idea that we can control the climate is absolute rubbish. Only a fool would make such a claim.
Mysterious scientists who disagree? Haven't you ever heard of William Gray.
"William M. "Bill" Gray (born 1929) is a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanes.[1] In 1952 he received a B.S. degree in geography from George Washington University, and in 1959 a M.S. in meteorology from the University of Chicago, where he went on to earn a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences in 1964.
Gray is Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU), and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at CSU's Department of Atmospheric Sciences. He served as a weather forecaster for the United States Air Force, and as a research assistant in the University of Chicago Department of Meteorology. He joined Colorado State University in 1961. He has been advisor of over 70 Ph.D. and M.S. students.
Gray is noted for his forecasts of Atlantic hurricane season activity. Gray pioneered the concept of "seasonal" hurricane forecastingâpredicting months in advance the severity of the coming hurricane season. Gray and his team (including Christopher W. Landsea, Paul W. Mielke Jr., and Kenneth J. Berry, among others) has been issuing seasonal hurricane forecasts since 1984.[1]
After the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, Gray announced that he was stepping back from the primary authorship of CSU's tropical cyclone probability forecasts, passing the role to Philip J. Klotzbach. Gray indicated that he would be devoting more time to the issue of global warming. He is a controversial figure in the global warming debate, as he does not subscribe to anthropogenic causes for global warming."
Of course you know much more on the subject than him don't you. Nicely done, once again the Global Warming Cult comes up short. They are big on hype, short on results. Why would that be a surprise, most of them are crats.
Quote from drjekyllus:
What history? Is the history accurate? Are you refering to Michael Mann and the history that he put together? Or are you refering to the climate data from 2008 where both NASA and NOAA were caught lying about the global temp? Is this data you are refering to?
NASA didn't "lie" about global temperatures. They had an minor error in a single month of data which they pulled after posting within 24 hours at their own initiative. They corrected the data and reposted it.
Second of all, you are the folks trying to put forth the theory that we can control the climate, it is on you to provide the burden of proof. This whole idea that we can control the climate is absolute rubbish. Only a fool would make such a claim.
Why? Is emitting billions of tons of CO2 every year definitely a drop in the bucket?
Mysterious scientists who disagree? Haven't you ever heard of William Gray.
"William M. "Bill" Gray (born 1929) is a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanes.[1] In 1952 he received a B.S. degree in geography from George Washington University, and in 1959 a M.S. in meteorology from the University of Chicago, where he went on to earn a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences in 1964.
No offense, but the guy's 80 years old and retired.
Quote from bigdavediode:
NASA didn't "lie" about global temperatures. They had an minor error in a single month of data which they pulled after posting within 24 hours at their own initiative. They corrected the data and reposted it.
Why? Is emitting billions of tons of CO2 every year definitely a drop in the bucket?
No offense, but the guy's 80 years old and retired.
They tried to copy Septembers data for Octobers data is not a minor error. It was only pulled after they realize other people were paying attention and called them on the bogus data.
Where did this CO2 that we are releasing come from in the first place?
So you know more about the planet's climate than him because he is 80? That makes no sense. Its not like he came to this conclusion this year, either. What are your credentials?
As stated in the title "The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart". You were wrong, just admit it. Holding onto a losing idea is like holding onto a losing trade. You can hope all you want, that time will redem you, but time usually makes you look like a bigger fool.
Quote from drjekyllus:
They tried to copy Septembers data for Octobers data is not a minor error. It was only pulled after they realize other people were paying attention and called them on the bogus data.
I'm pretty sure that's false -- please cite who caught them. Additionally it was regional data for Russia, for October.
Where did this CO2 that we are releasing come from in the first place?
Underground, mostly.
So you know more about the planet's climate than him because he is 80? That makes no sense. Its not like he came to this conclusion this year, either. What are your credentials?
As stated in the title "The Global Warming Hoax is falling apart". You were wrong, just admit it. Holding onto a losing idea is like holding onto a losing trade. You can hope all you want, that time will redem you, but time usually makes you look like a bigger fool.
Okay, what am I wrong about?
Quote from bigdavediode:
I'm pretty sure that's false -- please cite who caught them. Additionally it was regional data for Russia, for October.
Underground, mostly.
Okay, what am I wrong about?
Yeah, they only lied about the small area of Russia. Russia is soooo tiny it doesn't make a bit of difference. Then they touted it and said it was the warmest October EVER, which it WASNT EVEN CLOSE.
The freaking CO2 came from the atmoshpere. You do realize how fossil fuel works, don't you? Burning fossil fuel returns it to the atmoshpere. I think it is entirely possible that the Earth wants that CO2 back in the atmoshpere so the Earth made us. It is certainly possible according to the Gaia hypothesis.
What exactly are you wrong about? You were wrong about everything. Why do you think human can control the climate? It is a bizarre claim.
Quote from bigdavediode:
NASA didn't "lie" about global temperatures. They had an minor error in a single month of data which they pulled after posting within 24 hours at their own initiative. They corrected the data and reposted it.
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Not their only "error." Hansen's propaganda is riddled with errors and impossible to duplicate "findings." His own boss ridiculed him. Basically Hansen has misused his NASA affiliation to spread lies about global warming for political and personal gain. He should have been fired, but of course republicans are far too easily intimidated to do anything like that. Obama, different story. He fired an IG for exposing one of his friends/supporters, former NBA star Kevin Johnson, for misusing AmeriCorp funds.