The general's comments on gays

Your point of view is provincial and imperialistic...

Quote from jem:

zzz I just re-read your silly argument above about killing.

You cant be serious.

You need to study up on homicide and the military code of justice.

I am not sure if you remember a guy named Kerry but I think he made a big deal about justified killings during a time of war? If fact I think there may have been two senators named kerry whose careers were made and lost based on justified killing during a time of war.
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Quite the overreaction on your part.

I don't often agree with you, I usually disagree with you, but do I tell you to shut the fuck up?

Your reaction...quite telling...

Oh, and I don't speak for the liberals, I am able to form my own point of view without being told what it should be by Rush of others of his ilk, from either side of the party...

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

So I was right. It's ok with liberals for generals to attach moral significance to some policies but not others, based on whether or not liberals agree with them.

This appears to be an application of the standard liberal interpretation of the First Amendment: "Everyone who disagrees with me shut the f*ck up."
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"... the way you can explain homo"ness."

LMAO...

Quote from version77:

Geez, the way you can explain homo"ness" in one of your earlier
posts makes it sound like you might be gay and proud of it...:p

My wife's mother's 6th husband's (who died 2 weeks ago) grandaughter
was one of those "lets go to the sperm bank and get us some sperm"
so she and her lesbian girlfriend could have a baby. I saw the baby
at the memorial service for my wife's mother's 6th husband. The
baby looked normal but the mom looked like your average dike.

Imagine if the guy who contributed that sperm knew it was going
to be used to create a child that would have no dad. Only two
mommy's. I bet he would of never done it. Unless he was gay himself
in the first place.

So, I guess you are right. The homo's can take over the world and
make babies without normal people. Gay guys contribute the sperm
and the dikes have the babies.

The world gets worse as time goes on. That's all I can say.

(BTW, ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, you would make a good gay book writer...LOL...
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If one human being can dictate morality to another adult human being, the person who is being dictated to has no inner moral compass of their own...

Maybe that was you for 6 years in the military, maybe that way today...

Quote from pamjoey:

I understand the difference between law & morality. But as I and others said, in earlier posts, thats not the way the military works.

You ask, "SINCE WHEN"? , and we told you. Someone even quoted military law. The military operates for the good of the whole unit. It does dictate law & morality, and nearly anything else. This is done, because it takes some degree of discipline, to control a military organization.

As far as calling me a "dittohead" LOL, im not bothered. People like you often resort to name calling, when they are wrong, as you are in this case, according to military law.

The question was answered correctly, by several people on here, you just didnt like the answer. Dont ask the question, if you dont want the answer. You asked the question, thinking you were right. Its not a big deal, you just didnt know.

I served 6 years in the army, and I have personally witnessed the army dictate laws and morality on numerous occassions.

They will probably continue to dictate laws & morality. I dont see it changing anytime soon.

I guess that you have not served in the military, or otherwise, you would have known about military policy
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March 15, 2007, 4:09 pm
Obama Echoes Clinton on Morality and Gays

By The New York Times
Barack Obama

The campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are in sync not only on the geopolitical importance of Selma, Ala., but also on the issue of whether homosexuality is moral or not. This afternoon, the Obama campaign released the following statement:

“As the New York Times reported today, I do not agree with General Pace that homosexuality is immoral. Attempts to divide people like this have consumed too much of our politics over the past six years.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/obama-echoes-clinton-on-morality-and-gays/
 
This whole thread is gay perpetuated by non-sensical boarderline gays .....especially non-serving boaderline- gays. You people are stupid.

Gays in military pose no threat to anyone except to the homophobic red-necks and closets tool smokers themselves. Women on the other hand are a HUGE PROBLEM.

The gay guy and a straight guy in a fighting hole and there is no problem...no attraction ...serious mission focus. A women and a straight guy in a fighting hole and there's huge problem and the mission breaks down...no mission focus.

Gays in Military is the biggest right wing jack job ever. Give the boys their amour and ammo and get the Hell outta the way....
 
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

This whole thread is gay perpetuated by non-sensical boarderline gays .....especially non-serving boaderline- gays. You people are stupid.

Gays in military pose no threat to anyone except to the homophobic red-necks and closets tool smokers themselves. Women on the other hand are a HUGE PROBLEM.

The gay guy and a straight guy in a fighting hole and there is no problem...no attraction ...serious mission focus. A women and a straight guy in a fighting hole and there's huge problem and the mission breaks down...no mission focus.

Gays in Military is the biggest right wing jack job ever. Give the boys their amour and ammo and get the Hell outta the way....
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I think you have a point. A very inconvenient point, but one I am sure any commander would agree with.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Quite the overreaction on your part.

I don't often agree with you, I usually disagree with you, but do I tell you to shut the fuck up?

Your reaction...quite telling...

Oh, and I don't speak for the liberals, I am able to form my own point of view without being told what it should be by Rush of others of his ilk, from either side of the party...
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You're not trying to shut me up, but you don't want to hear the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs when he says something un-PC.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You're not trying to shut me up, but you don't want to hear the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs when he says something un-PC.
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Anyway, you're in good company. I just heard Romney on Larry King saying the same thing. He wants Pace to keep it to himself too. I'm afraid Romney is going to let this homo issue defeat him. He already has problems with the evangelicals over his religion. Now he is trying to get on all sides of the gay issue.

The whole rationale for the don't ask don't tell policy is that homosexual conduct is immoral. It we say it is not immoral or abnormal, then the only reason for the policy is that other soldiers don't like homos, which begins to sound like condoning discrimination. After all, that was the reason for segregation in the ranks.

Romney's explanation is that don't ask don't tell "has worked well". He just doesn't want to have to explain it or support it on the merits. I'm afraid that may work on Larry King but it won't cut it before the major evangelical groups.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I think you have a point. A very inconvenient point, but one I am sure any commander would agree with.
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I partly disagree with Doc. I think he makes a great point about women. Hell there's a several murders a year in the military because of love triangles.

Doc, when you were in the Marines were there out of the closet homosexuals in the Corp?

Did they tend to fraternize with only themselves?

Is not lesbianism a bigger issue than male gays?
 
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