You are correct in calling me a "hater". I hate the believers in central planning who are moving the country I love away from belief in individual responsibility, limited gov't, and freedom into a collectivist mentality. I am pessimistic because the power of progressive taxation as an easy way to buy votes seems to be too powerful to overcome. But inevitably, the pendulum will swing, Atlas will shrug (or leave), and will someday be begged to return to work and asked what it will take.......the answer is simple, "LAISSEZ FAIRE". Stosh
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The Future Of America
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You are correct in calling me a "hater". I hate the believers in central planning who are moving the country I love away from belief in individual responsibility, limited gov't, and freedom into a collectivist mentality. I am pessimistic because the power of progressive taxation as an easy way to buy votes seems to be too powerful to overcome. But inevitably, the pendulum will swing, Atlas will shrug (or leave), and will someday be begged to return to work and asked what it will take.......the answer is simple, "LAISSEZ FAIRE". Stosh
The population of a democracy gets alienated from the political process because of the current flawed execution of the democratic models - open to special interests and corruption. By increasing the complexity of the political process on top of increasing the number of laws and regulations, the population is further distanced from seeing any effect - or even choice - in any election. Change gets more difficult as the social systems get progressively more encumbered, and this results in protests.
The call for "stop complaining, do something" is an indication of this trend - and at the same time it's getting more and more difficult to do anything. There is only one realistic way to offload this complexity - make society less encumbered and offer more freedom, less corruption and better trust. It's the same method being employed in many business models to handle similar problems - by moving the trust-models over on to a technological platform. That works for elections, bureaucratic processes, business and any process where you need flexibility, adaptability and solid trust-models for an efficient, fair system.
USA has the world's largest economy, largest deficit, largest debt, largest subsidies, largest consumption... and so on.
Increased population age, dependency on pension funds and health services further exacerbates the challenges.
The move from USD pegged to gold was all part of enabling this growth. Now the US has large creditors in the Japanese, Chinese and others. The system and the stress on it's structure is getting bigger and bigger - so will the protracted periods; any change will become more difficult while quick fixes are increasing the burden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_Objectivism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_conservation_laws (Ron Paul)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_Modelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism
The call for "stop complaining, do something" is an indication of this trend - and at the same time it's getting more and more difficult to do anything. There is only one realistic way to offload this complexity - make society less encumbered and offer more freedom, less corruption and better trust. It's the same method being employed in many business models to handle similar problems - by moving the trust-models over on to a technological platform. That works for elections, bureaucratic processes, business and any process where you need flexibility, adaptability and solid trust-models for an efficient, fair system.
USA has the world's largest economy, largest deficit, largest debt, largest subsidies, largest consumption... and so on.
Increased population age, dependency on pension funds and health services further exacerbates the challenges.
The move from USD pegged to gold was all part of enabling this growth. Now the US has large creditors in the Japanese, Chinese and others. The system and the stress on it's structure is getting bigger and bigger - so will the protracted periods; any change will become more difficult while quick fixes are increasing the burden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_Objectivism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_conservation_laws (Ron Paul)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_Modelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism
Gringinho wrote......
The population of a democracy gets alienated from the political process because of the current flawed execution of the democratic models - open to special interests and corruption. By increasing the complexity of the political process on top of increasing the number of laws and regulations, the population is further distanced from seeing any effect - or even choice - in any election. Change gets more difficult as the social systems get progressively more encumbered, and this results in protests.
The call for "stop complaining, do something" is an indication of this trend - and at the same time it's getting more and more difficult to do anything. There is only one realistic way to offload this complexity - make society less encumbered and offer more freedom, less corruption and better trust. It's the same method being employed in many business models to handle similar problems - by moving the trust-models over on to a technological platform. That works for elections, bureaucratic processes, business and any process where you need flexibility, adaptability and solid trust-models for an efficient, fair system.
USA has the world's largest economy, largest deficit, largest debt, largest subsidies, largest consumption... and so on.
Increased population age, dependency on pension funds and health services further exacerbates the challenges.
The move from USD pegged to gold was all part of enabling this growth. Now the US has large creditors in the Japanese, Chinese and others. The system and the stress on it's structure is getting bigger and bigger - so will the protracted periods; any change will become more difficult while quick fixes are increasing the burden.
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One way of viewing progress, or just the opposite is a matter of leverage....
The US has become a highly levered country in that an individual who has a job has a lot of credit choices.....
Leverage mainly being...
Houses......30 year low interest debt
Cars..........multiyear debt
Credit cards....revolving debt
etc...etc...
An individual magnifies his cash buying power by a rather significant multiple.....
In many developing countries, low cost credit is largely unavailable....
Thus a "developed country individual" could make $50,000 and be able to consume many times $50,0000 in goods and services.....whereas a "developing country individual" can make $50,000 and only consume $50,000.....
Thus the leveraging of stable property rights is mostly responsible for the success of significant money flows in the developed countries.....
However, leverage is a double edged sword.....
Severe interuptions that destablize a developed economy such as severe cost strains in inelastic goods prices, can cause debilitating economic swings......as compared to the relative disruptions in developing countries that never had the credit windows.....
The population of a democracy gets alienated from the political process because of the current flawed execution of the democratic models - open to special interests and corruption. By increasing the complexity of the political process on top of increasing the number of laws and regulations, the population is further distanced from seeing any effect - or even choice - in any election. Change gets more difficult as the social systems get progressively more encumbered, and this results in protests.
The call for "stop complaining, do something" is an indication of this trend - and at the same time it's getting more and more difficult to do anything. There is only one realistic way to offload this complexity - make society less encumbered and offer more freedom, less corruption and better trust. It's the same method being employed in many business models to handle similar problems - by moving the trust-models over on to a technological platform. That works for elections, bureaucratic processes, business and any process where you need flexibility, adaptability and solid trust-models for an efficient, fair system.
USA has the world's largest economy, largest deficit, largest debt, largest subsidies, largest consumption... and so on.
Increased population age, dependency on pension funds and health services further exacerbates the challenges.
The move from USD pegged to gold was all part of enabling this growth. Now the US has large creditors in the Japanese, Chinese and others. The system and the stress on it's structure is getting bigger and bigger - so will the protracted periods; any change will become more difficult while quick fixes are increasing the burden.
...........................................................................................
One way of viewing progress, or just the opposite is a matter of leverage....
The US has become a highly levered country in that an individual who has a job has a lot of credit choices.....
Leverage mainly being...
Houses......30 year low interest debt
Cars..........multiyear debt
Credit cards....revolving debt
etc...etc...
An individual magnifies his cash buying power by a rather significant multiple.....
In many developing countries, low cost credit is largely unavailable....
Thus a "developed country individual" could make $50,000 and be able to consume many times $50,0000 in goods and services.....whereas a "developing country individual" can make $50,000 and only consume $50,000.....
Thus the leveraging of stable property rights is mostly responsible for the success of significant money flows in the developed countries.....
However, leverage is a double edged sword.....
Severe interuptions that destablize a developed economy such as severe cost strains in inelastic goods prices, can cause debilitating economic swings......as compared to the relative disruptions in developing countries that never had the credit windows.....
Quote from vhehn:
how long will it take to "undue" the pile of debt the republicans and bush have run up in 8 years? do you propose we give them 8 more years?
He didn't say what Obama does will be a bad thing, just that the Republicans will need to be in office for a long time to change his changes. And he also said America is no longer a free country.
lol, republicans are the ones trying to destroy the usa by increasing our debts to the point of total collaspe. Anyone voting republican of course is a complete traitor,,thats just a fact.
Quote from bullmarket79:
lol, republicans are the ones trying to destroy the usa by increasing our debts to the point of total collaspe. Anyone voting republican of course is a complete traitor,,thats just a fact.
You forget that republican vote on abortion. By that standard, Bush probably did great. They could care less whether the country is falling apart.
Foreign policy = who cares, just nuke them all.
Climate change = who cares, I will be dead. Let my children suffer.
National Debt = who cares, I will be dead. Let my children pay for it. Just cut tax and give me money now.
Yet for some reason, I really care about where life begin. On the other hand, I could care less about real human life that I deem as infidel or worthless.
I am for everyman for his own skin. Yet, when my bet went wrong, PLEASE bail me out!!
Democrats are not perfect but I will take the lesser evil. At the minimum, they really did stop increasing the national deficit at one point.
Quote from poyayan:
"... Democrats...they really did stop increasing the national deficit at one point.
And they will again.. BY RAISING TAXES... any dumbf*ck can do that.
One day, THEY WILL "TAKE IT ALL"... And no matter how hard you work, no matter what you accomplish... you will NEVER HAVE ANYTHING...then for what will you cheer?
This is exactly why a consumption tax is the only way to go.....
You use it , you pay for it.....
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Every government should move in this direction.....and really has to in order for globalization to work....
The only way that globalization is going to work is for each governemnt to take out the same amount.....
The only fair way of taxing is for someone to pay for it if they use it....
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And these supposed 2,3,4 party advertising systems have become outdated with the advent of the internet.....
Most big projects take longer than 2,4,6 years.....
Also government works much better when it is much smaller in scope....and nothing could be better than town to town, which reports to states, which report to the capital......
Each town government collects consumption tax revenue....and all expenditures are voted on by internet, locally....
That's it....
No other individual or corporate taxes.....
No other tariffs....just nothing else....
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A new world organization needs to be formed to set this up.....
Then let the world compete with each other....
Why not ?
Who would not want this ?
You use it , you pay for it.....
....................................................................................
Every government should move in this direction.....and really has to in order for globalization to work....
The only way that globalization is going to work is for each governemnt to take out the same amount.....
The only fair way of taxing is for someone to pay for it if they use it....
.......................................................................................
And these supposed 2,3,4 party advertising systems have become outdated with the advent of the internet.....
Most big projects take longer than 2,4,6 years.....
Also government works much better when it is much smaller in scope....and nothing could be better than town to town, which reports to states, which report to the capital......
Each town government collects consumption tax revenue....and all expenditures are voted on by internet, locally....
That's it....
No other individual or corporate taxes.....
No other tariffs....just nothing else....
.............................................................................
A new world organization needs to be formed to set this up.....
Then let the world compete with each other....
Why not ?
Who would not want this ?