you do get that shifty is a deranged lunatic right?
That's future AG Schiff to you redhatyou do get that shifty is a deranged lunatic right?
As a practical matter a dismissal for Flynn- regardless of with or without prejudice- is an acquittal. The judge knows that, and everyone else does too.
To try him again on the issue would be to subject him to double jeopardy which is not allowed under the Constitution. Jeopardy- the first time- attaches to a case when it has been put before a jury or if it is a bench trial with just a judge then it attaches when the first witness is called. A defendant is considered to have been put in jeopardy at that point. If a case is dismissed before that then the defendant can be tried again because he was just subjected to preliminary filings and maneuvering. Since Flynn plead to a deal then those two conditions were arguably not met- no jury, no witnesses called, I don't think. However, jeopardy is also considered to have occured (ie, it is attached to the case in legal parlance)when the judge accepts a guilty plea from a defendant- and that has it occurred.
So basically the case is far enough along that legally and constitutionally the defendant has been exposed to jeopardy once. The prosecutor therefore must do the deed and get a conviction or stand down and allow a dismissal knowing that it will also be an acquittal. There are rare exceptions which I will not go into now, and do not confuse a dismissal with a mistrial when you google around in your attempt to be an expert.
For a few million dollars you can get a legal team to argue against the double jeopardy barrier but it not the side that an attorney wants to be on.
Ironically, Flynn has a request to withdraw his guilty plea which Judge Asshole has not granted yet that guilty plea acceptance is what will prevent double jeopardy. Yet if Asshole approves the request to withdraw, then that just means that Flynn can go to trial but the government stands there ready to say that it is not interested in or able to prosecute him due to misconduct by its own agents. womp...womp...womp.
As I have said many times, Judge Asshole can keep this thing going for several more rounds if he wants. It is just a matter of how much he wants to disgrace himself with his superiors and colleagues. The outcome wil be the same though. Flynn is going to walk and not need a pardon to do it.
Keep googling Peizo. We will find something for you to be right about.
No doubt.I have said many times Trump will go on a pardoning spree in January.Manafort,Stone,Papdouplous etc and Flynn if the judge continues to fight.
I hope the judge continues to fight.Id rather Flynns legacy be pardoned criminal than never convicted
Judge orders Justice Department to verify its filings in Flynn case
The order is a signal of intense distrust between the judge, Emmet Sullivan, and the department, whose filings are typically accepted at face value.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/judge-orders-justice-department-to-verify-its-filings-in-flynn-case-431600
Though Flynn pleaded guilty to lying and cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigators for a year, he dropped his legal team in early 2019, hired anti-Mueller firebrand attorney Sidney Powell and reversed his posture, claiming he was entrapped into a guilty plea by corrupt FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors. Earlier this year, Attorney General William Barr appointed a Missouri-based U.S. attorney to review the case and, as Flynn mounted an effort to unravel his guilty plea, Barr moved in May to dismiss the charges altogether.
But Sullivan has resisted pressure to drop the case, instead appointing an outside adviser to argue against dismissal. That adviser, former Judge John Gleeson, has accused Barr of an overtly political effort to drop the Flynn case in order to protect a prominent Trump ally. Sullivan's posture has led to contentious litigation, including a failed effort by Flynn's team to ask the appeals court to elbow Sullivan aside while accusing him of bias. In the intervening months, the Justice Department and Flynn have continued to publicly post sets of documents that Flynn's team has characterized as evidence of FBI misconduct.
Two of those documents included the notes that DOJ now acknowledges were altered, a revelation that Sullivan said last month left him "floored" and demanding answers. In his new order, Sullivan notes that DOJ did not respond to his request to authenticate all 14 exhibits it has filed in support of the dismissal motion.
"Although the government relies heavily on these 14 Exhibits, the government has not provided a declaration attesting that the Exhibits are true and correct copies," he wrote Friday. Though he acknowledged there is typically a legal "presumption" that documents filed by the government are authentic, it doesn't apply in this case. "Here, however, the government has acknowledged that altered FBI records have been produced by the government and filed on the record in this case."
In his order, Sullivan demanded by Monday a sworn declaration that all other documents in the case are "true and correct copies." That declaration, Sullivan says, must spell out the name, date and author of its contents — aspects that were sometimes left ambiguous by the publicly filed records. Sullivan also asks for DOJ to provide transcripts of the handwritten notes, which could also eliminate ambiguities related to some of the hard-to-read scrawlings.
The alteration in Strzok's notes have already led to significant public confusion about a key aspect of the FBI's investigation of Flynn. Strzok's notes summarize a Jan. 5, 2017, Oval Office meeting at which President Barack Obama, FBI Director James Comey and other national security officials discussed Flynn's contact with Russian officials. The document filed in court included a notation that indicated a date range of Jan. 4-5, 2017 — an addition that DOJ attributes to an inadvertently scanned sticky note.
Despite little ambiguity about the date of the Oval Office meeting, the inclusion of Jan. 4, 2017, as a potential earlier date helped Trump deploy the issue during a debate last month with former Vice President Joe Biden.
Strzok's notes indicate that Biden mentioned the Logan Act — a mostly defunct 18th-century law that criminalizes efforts by private citizens to conduct U.S. foreign policy. The FBI internally discussed using the Logan Act as a basis for its decision to interview Flynn a few weeks later as it investigated his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States. Ultimately, FBI and DOJ officials said the interview was conducted as part of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Strzok’s notes provide no context about why Biden raised the Logan Act, if it was in response to anyone else or how any officials responded. Biden has previously acknowledged being present in the Oval Office during the discussion of the Flynn matter and indicated he was broadly aware of the FBI investigation. “But that's all I know about it. I don't think anything else,” Biden said.
Trump, though, accused Biden of dredging up the Logan Act himself to go after Flynn.
"You gave the idea for the Logan Act against General Flynn," the president said at the Sept. 29 debate.
Yet other documents released by the DOJ indicate that the notion of pursuing a Logan Act charge against Flynn originated inside the FBI on Jan. 4, 2017, a day before the Oval Office meeting occurred. Messages exchanged between Strzok and FBI attorney Lisa Page on that day reveal a discussion of the obscure law. Strzok provided the text of the statute to Page, as well as an analysis by the Congressional Research Service that noted the Logan Act had been in relative disuse for more than 200 years and could be unconstitutional.
On Thursday, the Justice Department also signaled in a public filing that it had completed its review of the Flynn case and had no additional documents to turn over. DOJ specifically pointed out that it found no evidence of an earlier draft of the FBI's summary of Flynn's Jan. 24, 2017 interview with Strzok and agent Joe Pientka. Flynn's legal team, as well as outside allies including Trump himself, have suggested for more than a year that an "original" summary — known in FBI parlance as an FD-302 — of the interview exists and must be turned over, but DOJ said it scoured all FBI systems and had already turned over three drafts as well as the first finalized version, completed on Feb. 15, 2017.
"You have previously been provided with three draft versions of the FD-302, dated February 10, 11, and 14, 2017, that were circulated in PDF format by email to FBI personnel for review," Justice Department officials indicated. "[T]hese are the only draft versions of the FD-302 that we have located during our diligent searches.
"The department also indicated it found no additional relevant communications about Flynn's case among FBI higher-ups that hadn't already been disclosed.