The fine GOP House majority

It is interesting to see how the media and internet trolls are trying to characterize the Freedom Caucus efforts at attempting to cause reforms with Congressional rules, particularly those rules that were harmfully changed by an earlier Congress. The media is using personal attacks and proposing rules changes to quash the efforts of the Freedom Caucus. In effect, further promoting centralizing Congressional power.

The core issue is rampant corruption in Washington. This corruption permiates both major political parties, all levels of government, including the justice department, investigative agencies, and intelligence services.

It seems few people realize the harmful effects of corruption on policy, both foreign and domestic, our economy, innovation, distribution of income, and general competence of our politicians and business leaders. Corruption is accerating the decline of Democracy and the "American Experience" for which many still drawn to.

Corruption involves the breach of an agent's duty towards a principle. For purposes of this post, the principle is the American people and the agent is our supposed representatives, our elected officials. These duties include:

1. Duty of Loyalty
2. Duty of Care
3. Duty of information and disclosure
4. Duty of Obedience
5. Duty of Accounting

A couple of obvious questions involve how corporate political donors and how competing public interests are handled. More on this later, but first some definitions.

Duty of Loyalty - An agent has the duty to act for the principle's advantage and not to act to the benefit from themselves at the principle's expense. This duty also requires the agent to avoid, or at least disclose, conflicts of interest in a timely manner.

Duty of Care - An agent has the duty to excercise due diligence when carrying out the responsibilities of agency towards the principle. Incompetence should have consequences for the agent.

Duty of Disclosure - An agent has the duty to protect all confidential information of the principle and not to disclose information to third parties without the principal's consent.

Duty of Obedience - An agent has the duty to obey the reasonable instructions by the principal. For practical purposes, this means politicians should be required to follow our Constitution, laws, and rules. Further, laws must be written for the clear benefit of the constituency at large.

Duty of Accounting - An agent has the duty to account for monies received and spent, including the disclosure of money recieved by a third party, such as campaign contributions.

The above is a brief summary of the elements of agency. I left out the details on the principles behind the where and when these duties apply, but will address them upon request or challenge.

Corporate political donations fundamentally create challenges in politicians fulfilling their obligations to voters at large. Often, large corporations interests are competing, in some cases advarsarial, to consumer interests.

Voters often have competing interests. How should a politician reconcile these differences without breaching their Duty of Obedience? This is where the creation of a political platform and the election process comes in. In theory, those politicians whose platform reflect the majority view will be chosen to represent those views. Note this does not mean the politician can properly become an adversary toward the minority. It means the politician can do no harm beyond the normal result of competition as related to (a) specific view(s).

Specific examples of the harmful effects of corruption to follow in another post, perhaps tomorrow.


This ends up being logorrhea...

Freedom Caucus is 54 members out of the 435 total and all they want is more popwer no some benevelent fight against corruption..

And they demanded that conservatives gain seats on key congressional committees. Committee chairs have the power to steer which bills are passed and sent to the House floor, but House leaders have rarely put members of the House Freedom Caucus in charge of committees, limiting the group’s influence.

“Conservatives are dramatically underrepresented on the so-called ‘A’ committees (e.g. Appropriations, Energy & Commerce, Ways & Means, etc.),” the letter to McCarthy read. “Of the 20 ‘standing’ committees in the House, only one is led by a [House Freedom Caucus] member.”

Power corrupts so that kind of goes against your point.
 
corporations are people too, just to refresh your memory, gop created this mess.

Indeed, "Corporations considered as having the same rights as people" does create a mess. Those who proposed and supported that idea should be called out and hopefully voted out. "What about the rights of AI"? Grin.

At issue is the creation of "Dual agency", a relationship that is considered illegal or is severely restricted in many states. Dual agency is where the previously posted five duties a agent owes to a principal becomes owed to two principals who are in an competative or adversarial relationship with one another. How can an agent be loyal to both principals, for example? How can an agent effectively represent both principals when their objectives are conflicting? An exception would involve the informed consent of the original principal for a specific transaction under specific conditions that are likely favorable in some way to the original principal.

Now let's consider the rights of multiple corporations. Often, large corporations with their large lobbying budgets can gain a competitive advantage over smaller corporations (Much less other business types) through favorable legislation. An example would be regulations that permit or require an insurance company to demand extensive, specific documentation to be provided for a healthcare professional for payment. If the healthcare provider is a large corporation, the burden of providing such documentation is relatively smaller due to economies of scale, while the costs for private healthcare practice often become overwhelming. I've been told many doctors are leaving private practice because compliance with patient insurance requirements takes up 30% or so of their time. While compliance can be outsourced, the private practice has to pay for it, requiring a substantial price increase, thereby decreasing competitiveness. Further, insurance companies often only pay for certain types of medical procedures or certain medical procedures to be performed in a certain way, sometimes in conflict to what the medical professional feels is in the best interest of the patient. Given these conditions, many are leaving private practice and the attractiveness of healthcare as a profession is reduced, likely reducing future supply of doctors and healthcare innovation to the ultimate detriment of patients.

The above is only one of many examples of why political system reforms are necessary. Why our representatives must always respect their duties to voters. I am not saying that businesses should not have any input into our political process, but any such input must be always be looked through the lens of what is in the best interest of constituents.
 
Indeed, "Corporations considered as having the same rights as people" does create a mess. Those who proposed and supported that idea should be called out and hopefully voted out. "What about the rights of AI"? Grin.

At issue is the creation of "Dual agency", a relationship that is considered illegal or is severely restricted in many states. Dual agency is where the previously posted five duties a agent owes to a principal becomes owed to two principals who are in an competative or adversarial relationship with one another. How can an agent be loyal to both principals, for example? How can an agent effectively represent both principals when their objectives are conflicting? An exception would involve the informed consent of the original principal for a specific transaction under specific conditions that are likely favorable in some way to the original principal.

Now let's consider the rights of multiple corporations. Often, large corporations with their large lobbying budgets can gain a competitive advantage over smaller corporations (Much less other business types) through favorable legislation. An example would be regulations that permit or require an insurance company to demand extensive, specific documentation to be provided for a healthcare professional for payment. If the healthcare provider is a large corporation, the burden of providing such documentation is relatively smaller due to economies of scale, while the costs for private healthcare practice often become overwhelming. I've been told many doctors are leaving private practice because compliance with patient insurance requirements takes up 30% or so of their time. While compliance can be outsourced, the private practice has to pay for it, requiring a substantial price increase, thereby decreasing competitiveness. Further, insurance companies often only pay for certain types of medical procedures or certain medical procedures to be performed in a certain way, sometimes in conflict to what the medical professional feels is in the best interest of the patient. Given these conditions, many are leaving private practice and the attractiveness of healthcare as a profession is reduced, likely reducing future supply of doctors and healthcare innovation to the ultimate detriment of patients.

The above is only one of many examples of why political system reforms are necessary. Why our representatives must always respect their duties to voters. I am not saying that businesses should not have any input into our political process, but any such input must be always be looked through the lens of what is in the best interest of constituents.


That is a long writing for your hypocrisy. Corporation doesn't have political awareness.

Business is run by people, it is an organization for tax purpose, nothing more. Get rid of lobbying write-off, back to individual donations and government matching, that will put the representatives where they come from.
 
My campaign finance reform proposal:
-Every registered voter gets $50-$100 to use per cycle (use it or lose it)
-They can only use that money for campaigns within their jurisdiction (You can't donate to a candidate running in District 2 if you're in District 1)
-No other outside money allowed (corporate, Super PACS, unions, etc)
 
This ends up being logorrhea...

Freedom Caucus is 54 members out of the 435 total and all they want is more popwer no some benevelent fight against corruption..

And they demanded that conservatives gain seats on key congressional committees. Committee chairs have the power to steer which bills are passed and sent to the House floor, but House leaders have rarely put members of the House Freedom Caucus in charge of committees, limiting the group’s influence.

“Conservatives are dramatically underrepresented on the so-called ‘A’ committees (e.g. Appropriations, Energy & Commerce, Ways & Means, etc.),” the letter to McCarthy read. “Of the 20 ‘standing’ committees in the House, only one is led by a [House Freedom Caucus] member.”

Power corrupts so that kind of goes against your point.

Great point. Indeed, those who ask for power or concessions, especially when they attempt to use some form of leverage should be questioned, like Democrats have used their votes as leverage in the past on emergency Government funding legislation when Republicans last controlled the House, for another example.

Let's explore the context in which these requests were made. Nancy Pelosi appointed 3 freshmen, including AOC and Rashida Talib to the House Oversight and Reform Committee, outraging Republicans. Further, Nancy Pelosi created some controversy regarding appointments to the Armed Services Committee with her statements related to the January 6th protests in DC as a reason for excluding certain well qualified candidates.

It is understandable that members of the Freedom Commitee feel they "Deserve justice". However, a softer approach may be optimal.
 
It's ugly to say out loud but McCarthy may go to democrats for a handful of votes or those votes may come to him from democrats even if he does not try to recruit them. That is one of the reasons why people should not think that just because he cannot move the holdouts that he should withdraw (I mean from his perspective. I am not supporting McCarthy).

Most dems will stay out of it of course upon orders from the dems but some of them are in purple states and only won by a pubic hair and would love to be able to crow to others in the state that they worked bipartisan to help keep the congress functioning, blah, blah, blah.
Tree,
Do you have any predictions as to how this thing is gonna turn out?
 
McCartrhy whored enough of himself out to turn some votes so I think 12 times is the charm and he gets voted in as Speaker, or 13th if he whores out the last holdouts
 
My campaign finance reform proposal:
-Every registered voter gets $50-$100 to use per cycle (use it or lose it)
-They can only use that money for campaigns within their jurisdiction (You can't donate to a candidate running in District 2 if you're in District 1)
-No other outside money allowed (corporate, Super PACS, unions, etc)

Define "registered voter" - apparently there's a big problem right there.
 
My campaign finance reform proposal:
-Every registered voter gets $50-$100 to use per cycle (use it or lose it)
-They can only use that money for campaigns within their jurisdiction (You can't donate to a candidate running in District 2 if you're in District 1)
-No other outside money allowed (corporate, Super PACS, unions, etc)

Voting is not mandatory, I for one don't vote unless it is presidential year. I will be pissed if you got 50 bucks from gov't and I don't.
 
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