Quote from piezoe:
SouthAmerica's thread has been hijacked -- i'm one of those at fault. I like Ron Paul. I sent him money. He has an important message. I don't know if I can vote for him. I don't want to vote for anyone who won't insist of cutting military expenditures drastically -- who won't get religion out of government -- will he do those things-- can he do those things -- I doubt anyone can. -- I don't want to vote for anyone who does not understand that American medicine operates as a government protected cartel -- does he understand that? I doubt it. The country is fucked. In the end I'll be forced to vote for the least bad candidate. As usual, There will be no good candidates.
I sent him money and tried to vote for him, but he wasn't on the ballot in Illinois, and write in's don't get counted there.
He does advocate bringing the troops home and getting out of world policing. I don't recall him saying anything on religion, which to me is fine because it has no place in politics or government.
I won't advocate, contribute or try to vote for him again. It was a total waste of many thousands of people's time, money, and effort. America has proved herself greedy, foolish, and ignorant, and deserves the ruin the ridiculous spending and associated debt will bring that lays before us.
The only way out of this mess is a complete collapse, followed a generation later by a rebirth of the American spirit, much like happened from the 20's to the 40's. We had it all, but didn't learn what the real mistakes were in the last depression, and made horrifying worse mistakes trying to get out of it, which are now coming back to destroy us in this depression, because not only do we not have a solid base of wealth built on gold, but we find ourselves sitting on a foundation built on the largest, most atrocious pile of quicksand debt ever seen by the world. We will never recover from all the spending and promises against future production our government has made, not in our lifetimes, nor that of our children. That is the price for being ignorant of history's lessons. Like the one taught unintentionally by John Law. It is being retaught slowly, in real-time, today.
I would change my tune if I saw an end to the trade and budget deficits, but I think if anything, the combined effect of them has worsened over the years, not improved, no matter what politically acceptable and perfectly idiotic schemes our government has tried. Take the budget and trade deficits and add them together. The bigger the number is as compared to production, the worse things are getting, in reality, IMO.