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[themickey]

The biggest error of judgement from the West is their continual optimism that China will do the right things for the international community.
China has a large chip on its shoulder, it cares about itself first, 'the West have come uppance owing to them.'
"Punishment" is a familiar word you will hear.

 

[Turveyd]

What part of blood taken and tested show it was in the UK in November??

What part of and I've played this game in town, ask loads of people at random if they know of any covid deaths and I bet only 1% will say yes and 50% of them will say yes, but they had cancer late stage so was dying anyway.

Alledgely it's popped up again in Australia, it's a corona virus there are 100's of them, it's just a naturally occuring next mutation along the corona line, so all travel stopped it'll still pop up, so travel is irrelevant totally.

Ignore all the BS and the false deaths and it's a Bad Flu nothing more, move on, stop wasting everyones lives on this shit.

 

[DiceAreCast]

NO, he made the point that people had already travelled from Wuhan to other places in China and that those and other infected people could then still travel from other locations in China abroad and infect everyone else well after January 2020. Good Lord, you have now been corrected by three people. How fucking stubborn are you really?

For one thing he was clear that:

"I have never suggested that the Chinese government deliberately set out to spread a novel coronavirus around the world..."

very much opposite to what was suggested by @DiceAreCast. This Ferguson guy's conclusion is China's political model is flawed in that it didn't allow it to stop the spread of Covid-19 fast enough. Even though it made efforts to stop all flights after Jan. 23 from Wuhan, the epicentre of the virus, by that time it was too late because people have already travelled before that date to all around the world while it was still figuring out the virus. And there were blunders and mishaps that also happened during its efforts that further exacerbated the situation. China did better than last time with SARS when there was a major cover-up but it's still not good enough and it could do better. That's his conclusion. Well that we know and nobody has ever disputed that. China is not god. It doesn't have a crystal ball. But then again, nobody did any better this time. Did our governments that supposedly operate on a different political model a democratic model do better? Imo, it did even worse even seeing how it happened in China. Even seeing how the disease unravelled in China, those so-called "experts" in our countries still claimed the virus is "low risk" which inadvertently delayed all of our responses.

 

[DiceAreCast]

Exactly. And the most critical they can be is saying that "China's political model is flawed". That is pure STUPIDITY. China's model is not flawed at all, it is intentionally and perfectly designed to gain maximum benefit for itself and maximum damage to its partners abroad. The only way this system will hold up is to gain more power. This only works by disadvantaging and cheating trading partners while enriching itself. China has been working on a model to extract maximum benefit for decades and they are now flawlessly executing the plan. It is just that many on the outside are too stupid or naive to see that. They still think of China as some sort of experiment and the communist party trying out things. China is way beyond that. Most EVERYTHING they do has a well-defined intention and goal.

The biggest error of judgement from the West is their continual optimism that China will do the right things for the international community.
China has a large chip on its shoulder, it cares about itself first, 'the West have come uppance owing to them.'
"Punishment" is a familiar word you will hear.

 

[JSOP]

NO, he made the point that people had already travelled from Wuhan to other places in China and that those and other infected people could then still travel from other locations in China abroad and infect everyone else well after January 2020. Good Lord, you have now been corrected by three people. How fucking stubborn are you really?

Exactly what I said before:

For one thing he was clear that:
This Ferguson guy's conclusion is China's political model is flawed in that it didn't allow it to stop the spread of Covid-19 fast enough. Even though it made efforts to stop all flights after Jan. 23 from Wuhan, the epicentre of the virus, by that time it was too late because people have already travelled before that date to all around the world while it was still figuring out the virus. And there were blunders and mishaps that also happened during its efforts that further exacerbated the situation. China did better than last time with SARS when there was a major cover-up but it's still not good enough and it could do better. That's his conclusion.

Of course you need things to be posted twice in order for your brain to understand.

 

[JSOP]

Exactly. And the most critical they can be is saying that "China's political model is flawed". That is pure STUPIDITY. China's model is not flawed at all, it is intentionally and perfectly designed to gain maximum benefit for itself and maximum damage to its partners abroad. The only way this system will hold up is to gain more power. This only works by disadvantaging and cheating trading partners while enriching itself. China has been working on a model to extract maximum benefit for decades and they are now flawlessly executing the plan. It is just that many on the outside are too stupid or naive to see that. They still think of China as some sort of experiment and the communist party trying out things. China is way beyond that. Most EVERYTHING they do has a well-defined intention and goal.

If China is out to get us, f***ing do something!!! Petition to your government to ban foreigners from buying your properties!! Expropriate all the properties bought by non-residents!! Are you able to do that?? No. You couldn't even ban China's flights during the pandemic. Don't blame China for our governments' inadequacy!!

 

[DiceAreCast]

At least you made very clear of what origin you are and where you allegiances lie.

China is at 100% fault for the origin of the covid crisis. Either their people eat shit that most animals won't even touch, or the virus got out of their lab or they released it on purpose. Those are the only possibilities. In all three cases China is at 100% fault. And it's also 100% proven that China made sure that the rest of the world gets infected too by not containing its citizens to stay within China during the outbreak. Instead they let literally hundreds of thousands travel. Many infected. That is how the pandemic INITIALLY spread.

We need to agree to disagree. I won't change my stance because I see my arguments rooted in facts and the truth. Truth, you know that concept that Chinese culture has somehow forgotten over time.

If China is out to get us, f***ing do something!!! Petition to your government to ban foreigners from buying your properties!! Expropriate all the properties bought by non-residents!! Are you able to do that?? No. You couldn't even ban China's flights during the pandemic. Don't blame China for our governments' inadequacy!!

 

[JSOP]

The biggest error of judgement from the West is their continual optimism that China will do the right things for the international community.

That's not optimism but helpless hope. And China is not the only country that the west has this "continual optimism" for. Iran, Iraq, Yemen, The Taliban in Afghanistan, Russia, Myanmar... The list just goes on and on and on and on. Do we REALLY feel Iran will stick to any deals that they sign regarding the nuclear weapons that they have? What if they don't? Do we have any recourse? How do we monitor them to make sure they stick to the deal and not cheat? US has withdrawn its troops from Afghanistan after The Taliban has given its word to co-operate with the local government. How much of that can we rely on? US hasn't even withdrawn its troops yet and there is already an insurgence of violence in Afghanistan. Look at what's happening with Myanmar? Are we doing something to restore democracy there? We can't even control our own pandemic here.

China has a large chip on its shoulder, it cares about itself first, 'the West have come uppance owing to them.'

"Punishment" is a familiar word you will hear.

Yup they have their own brand of paranoid and misguided "nationalists" who are really racists, the same that exist everywhere. This is why we need to do more to get ahead!!

 

[JSOP]

At least you made very clear of what origin you are and where you allegiances lie.

China is at 100% fault for the origin of the covid crisis. Either their people eat shit that most animals won't even touch, or the virus got out of their lab or they released it on purpose. Those are the only possibilities. In all three cases China is at 100% fault. And it's also 100% proven that China made sure that the rest of the world gets infected too by not containing its citizens to stay within China during the outbreak. Instead they let literally hundreds of thousands travel. Many infected. That is how the pandemic INITIALLY spread.

We need to agree to disagree. I won't change my stance because I see my arguments rooted in facts and the truth. Truth, you know that concept that Chinese culture has somehow forgotten over time.

You believe what you will. I don't give a s***. China could've done more and better to contain the virus, that I agree but I do NOT agree that China spread the virus on purpose That, people, even the person who originated the "travel conspiracy theory" himself Niall Ferguson have repeatedly stated this and people here have corrected you on several occasions as well. And I already said, 1) it's not to the benefit of China that the whole world's economy goes into shutdown because China is a huge net exporter and 2) China had no way of foreseeing how all the governments in the world would control the pandemic. What if the governments in the world in the world were able to control the pandemic super fast then it would've done all that for nothing. You just chose to ignore these factors because of your paranoia or whatever and at the same time gave China way too much credit.