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The Fed is Getting Serious about Creating a Fake err. Digital Dollar
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See, you can't even engage with any China critical content because you know you have no valid defense because most of the critical content is true. You guys are the most selfish beings on this planet. All for self preservation.
Point-list.
Well, you give us enough comical material to laugh about and cringe about. Not our fault...
Racist nonsense speaks for itself.
Of course. Electric shavers that just don't break, walk man that looked cool (at that time), going small with laptops (Vaio and many others), making many electronic and non electronic items smaller for better daily use, most durable cars in the world, beautiful, clean parks cared for by the impeccable work of Japanese gardeners, a work ethic even at fast food outlets that is unsurpassed anywhere else. I can continue the list forever
What has China invented or improved recently other than very efficiently spreading the Wuhan virus? ,...oh wait, wasn't it gun powder and printing? Must have leaked by mistake.
Well for the record, China did NOT spread the Covid-19 virus. That's all the doing of our governments' incompetence and ignorance of science. China contained the virus very quickly within its own country and implemented very stringent quarantine restrictions on anybody who wants to enter China. Mandatory 14-day quarantine in a restricted area with close surveillance. Why couldn't we implement something like that here? WHY are the governments in our countries so inept in controlling the pandemic here? Don't tell me it's because of democracy. That gets old.
China is responsible for a lot of s*** that's happening in the west but it is not responsible for spreading the virus. That's on our governments here. If we want to deal effectively with China, we need to look at ourselves more closely at the same time and come to terms with where we screwed up as well. We f***ed up on controlling the pandemic here. And there is no excuse for it. Democracy did not set us up to fail. We did. Pretty pissed at our government on this one.
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They did spread the virus. China knew late December/early Jan 2020 about the severity of the outbreak and the symptoms of covid and yet they let all those people leave China and travel to every country on earth. On Jan 28 2020 Hong Kong closed all its borders in and out and China still let all those people travel from China to Europe and North America and rest of Asia.
Nobody but the Chinese leadership knows how many Chinese really died in China and whether they actually contained much. Nothing that comes out of China is trustworthy or reliable information. They have lied about CPI numbers, GDP figures, trade numbers for decades. Nobody who understand China trusts any of those numbers because China makes them up as they go along. They obstructed and delayed any independent investigators to search for the causes of the Wuhan virus until they had time to hide and clean up their mess and until it became worthless to investigate because all evidence was destroyed.
Those are undebatable facts.
Nobody but the Chinese leadership knows how many Chinese really died in China and whether they actually contained much. Nothing that comes out of China is trustworthy or reliable information. They have lied about CPI numbers, GDP figures, trade numbers for decades. Nobody who understand China trusts any of those numbers because China makes them up as they go along. They obstructed and delayed any independent investigators to search for the causes of the Wuhan virus until they had time to hide and clean up their mess and until it became worthless to investigate because all evidence was destroyed.
Those are undebatable facts.
Well for the record, China did NOT spread the Covid-19 virus. That's all the doing of our governments' incompetence and ignorance of science. China contained the virus very quickly within its own country and implemented very stringent quarantine restrictions on anybody who wants to enter China. Mandatory 14-day quarantine in a restricted area with close surveillance. Why couldn't we implement something like that here? WHY are the governments in our countries so inept in controlling the pandemic here? Don't tell me it's because of democracy. That gets old.
China is responsible for a lot of s*** that's happening in the west but it is not responsible for spreading the virus. That's on our governments here. If we want to deal effectively with China, we need to look at ourselves more closely at the same time and come to terms with where we screwed up as well. We f***ed up on controlling the pandemic here. And there is no excuse for it. Democracy did not set us up to fail. We did. Pretty pissed at our government on this one.
They did spread the virus. China knew late December/early Jan 2020 about the severity of the outbreak and the symptoms of covid and yet they let all those people leave China and travel to every country on earth. On Jan 28 2020 Hong Kong closed all its borders in and out and China still let all those people travel from China to Europe and North America and rest of Asia.
Nobody but the Chinese leadership knows how many Chinese really died in China and whether they actually contained much. Nothing that comes out of China is trustworthy or reliable information. They have lied about CPI numbers, GDP figures, trade numbers for decades. Nobody who understand China trusts any of those numbers because China makes them up as they go along. They obstructed and delayed any independent investigators to search for the causes of the Wuhan virus until they had time to hide and clean up their mess and until it became worthless to investigate because all evidence was destroyed.
Those are undebatable facts.
People are out and about in China right now as if nothing happened so yeah I would say they contained it regardless what their numbers say. If they didn't contain it, they would be like India right now but they are not. And like I said before, there was no way that China or any country in the world would've predicted how badly our governments in the west would control the pandemic so I am going to be reluctant on blaming China on spreading the virus on purpose. China is not the only one that let their citizens travel. All the countries that the variants originated from like UK let their citizens travel as well. Are we going to blame UK for spreading the variant as well?
Again like I said, if we want to beat China, we need to be objective and realistic about what China did and did not do, and how our governments are. No point excusing all of our f***up's behind "democracy" or liberty or whatever. I detest China when they don't play fair but I am not happy when we don't do our part to get ahead either.
The topic is NOT on how western governments handled this pandemic. I see millions of faults no doubt. But that's not the topic. The topic was on China. We don't even know how they handled it and what their numbers look like now. How do you know? What credence do you place in what anyone in China says or claims?
What we do know is that early January 2020 China DID know about the severity of the pandemic and they did nothing to prevent their infected citizens from spreading the disease to the rest of the world. They knew perfectly well what was going on otherwise they would not have arrested tons of virologists and medical professionals in China, who spoke up, in an effort to hide the truth. I am OK with you whitewashing how China deliberately spread the disease around the globe initially but that does not change any of the facts and how China will go down in the history books.
If you want to talk about the many subsequent faults of western governments then sure let's open a new thread and debate it. I am probably mostly on your side in terms of arguments on this.
What we do know is that early January 2020 China DID know about the severity of the pandemic and they did nothing to prevent their infected citizens from spreading the disease to the rest of the world. They knew perfectly well what was going on otherwise they would not have arrested tons of virologists and medical professionals in China, who spoke up, in an effort to hide the truth. I am OK with you whitewashing how China deliberately spread the disease around the globe initially but that does not change any of the facts and how China will go down in the history books.
If you want to talk about the many subsequent faults of western governments then sure let's open a new thread and debate it. I am probably mostly on your side in terms of arguments on this.
People are out and about in China right now as if nothing happened so yeah I would say they contained it regardless what their numbers say. If they didn't contain it, they would be like India right now but they are not. And like I said before, there was no way that China or any country in the world would've predicted how badly our governments in the west would control the pandemic so I am going to be reluctant on blaming China on spreading the virus on purpose. China is not the only one that let their citizens travel. All the countries that the variants originated from like UK let their citizens travel as well. Are we going to blame UK for spreading the variant as well?
Again like I said, if we want to beat China, we need to be objective and realistic about what China did and did not do, and how our governments are. No point excusing all of our f***up's behind "democracy" or liberty or whatever. I detest China when they don't play fair but I am not happy when we don't do our part to get ahead either.
Of course. Electric shavers that just don't break, walk man that looked cool (at that time), going small with laptops (Vaio and many others), making many electronic and non electronic items smaller for better daily use, most durable cars in the world, beautiful, clean parks cared for by the impeccable work of Japanese gardeners, a work ethic even at fast food outlets that is unsurpassed anywhere else. I can continue the list forever
What has China invented or improved recently other than very efficiently spreading the Wuhan virus? ,...oh wait, wasn't it gun powder and printing? Must have leaked by mistake.
Covid been detected in blood samples before the China outbreak all over the world, so not them, there just getting the blame for it as there the first to report it, they then massively over exaggerated it, with old people falling down the the street being reported as Covid victims dying in the street, not once has that happened.
People are out and about in China right now as if nothing happened so yeah I would say they contained it regardless what their numbers say. If they didn't contain it, they would be like India right now but they are not. And like I said before, there was no way that China or any country in the world would've predicted how badly our governments in the west would control the pandemic so I am going to be reluctant on blaming China on spreading the virus on purpose. China is not the only one that let their citizens travel. All the countries that the variants originated from like UK let their citizens travel as well. Are we going to blame UK for spreading the variant as well?
Again like I said, if we want to beat China, we need to be objective and realistic about what China did and did not do, and how our governments are. No point excusing all of our f***up's behind "democracy" or liberty or whatever. I detest China when they don't play fair but I am not happy when we don't do our part to get ahead either.
They didn't contain it, once past a certain point you simply can't, they quite rightly ignored it, it's a nothing and measures do not work against an airborne virus, why they lied and said it wasn't, check CDC it is, where as rest of the world badly counted there deaths to make it 4x's worse than it really is, crippled there health care service to kill more to get the yearly death stat's higher, and still only 7% above UK normal level, so nothing.
There is a Flu Corona virus based and it generally mutates and goes back around the globe every 4 years ish, this is normal, this time it had a huge media fear campaign this is not normal. It's a bad flu don't get me wrong, but it's been doing this for decades.