The EV transition is real

Pekelo said:
I know, and Fl is similar. I wonder if Baron's experience would be the same in Indiana... Or let's throw in a Michigan winter into the user experience.
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Probably not, but I'm not big fan of winter so I'd never live in either of states to begin with.
 
VicBee said:
Perhaps you should inquire as to the life of batteries and their warranty. There are numerous Tesla owners with well over 1 million km on their cars discussing batteries on YT
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I forgot to mention the mileage. If you drive 10,000 miles a year, I would recommend an EV. If you drive only a couple thousand miles a year, an ICE car is better. Because after 15 years, the ICE engine will be like new but the EV battery will be dead.
 
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There is talk about embedding electric charging infrastructure in highways to allow vehicles to charge while driving. The search results provide several examples of this technology being developed and tested:
  • Researchers at Cornell University are developing technology that can charge electric cars while they are in motion by embedding metal plates in the road that create alternating electric fields to power the vehicles.
  • Sweden is building the world's first permanent electrified highway by 2025 that would enable electric vehicles to charge while driving. The technology uses a conductive charging rail embedded in the road that transfers electricity to a receiver on the vehicle.
  • A pilot project in Milan, Italy has successfully demonstrated inductive charging technology that powers electric vehicles from coils embedded under the road surface while the vehicles are in motion.
  • Similar electrified road projects are also underway in Germany, Sweden, Israel, and the US state of Michigan.
The key benefits of this technology are that it could allow electric vehicles to have smaller batteries and eliminate the need to stop and charge, making them more convenient and practical for long-distance driving. However, the high costs of retrofitting existing roads with the necessary infrastructure is seen as a major challenge to widespread adoption.
 
Talk about paying a toll. Also the ability to track vehicles.

Although same can be done currently with EasyPass or down here in Florida with SunPass. Though SP unit can be placed in a foil pouch if one chooses not to use it all the time. And there are certainly cameras out the ying yang wherever you go.

But all this Jetsons stuff is still off in the distance. Norway is not the world.
 
SunTrader said:
All well and good, but registered vehicles include all new and used.

So EV's still make up a tiny slice of all vehicles on the road currently.

Which means Gas Stations (with fuel pumps) aren't going anywhere for a good long while longer.
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All registered vehicles isn't a good measure because it's all registered vehicles, from motorcycles, cars, trucks to buses. California has a stated ban on the sale of ICE vehicles by 2035. You want to see how fast gas stations will shut down?
California is in full transition. People are buying EVs but holding on to their ICE vehicle, just in case. If they are reassured with their EV, they will ditch the ICE. As the state EV infrastructure develops (more chargers, more repair shops, etc.) and conventional one disappears (longer distance to gas stations, higher gas prices, fewer repair shops, etc.) more people will give up their ICE vehicles. The fastest transition will come from single family home dwellers in urban and suburban zones and the slowest will come from those living in apartments and poorer rural communities.
The transition to EV also has to account for generational change. 10% of the 27 million drivers license holders are 65 or older, and those who still drive will likely not switch in great numbers.
 
CoolTrader said:
I forgot to mention the mileage. If you drive 10,000 miles a year, I would recommend an EV. If you drive only a couple thousand miles a year, an ICE car is better. Because after 15 years, the ICE engine will be like new but the EV battery will be dead.
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Ok... From batteries can't survive lots of miles to batteries can't survive very few miles... It's another myth. While batteries do inconsistently degrade 1-2% a year based on a number of factors (and thus the 10 year life span and warranty), you can also expect significant battery cost reduction 10 years from now. A barely used ICE will last much longer but who buys a car based on low miles resale value 15 years from now. It's really looking for a gotcha! argument.
 
birdman said:
There is talk about embedding electric charging infrastructure in highways to allow vehicles to charge while driving. The search results provide several examples of this technology being developed and tested:
  • Researchers at Cornell University are developing technology that can charge electric cars while they are in motion by embedding metal plates in the road that create alternating electric fields to power the vehicles.
  • Sweden is building the world's first permanent electrified highway by 2025 that would enable electric vehicles to charge while driving. The technology uses a conductive charging rail embedded in the road that transfers electricity to a receiver on the vehicle.
  • A pilot project in Milan, Italy has successfully demonstrated inductive charging technology that powers electric vehicles from coils embedded under the road surface while the vehicles are in motion.
  • Similar electrified road projects are also underway in Germany, Sweden, Israel, and the US state of Michigan.
The key benefits of this technology are that it could allow electric vehicles to have smaller batteries and eliminate the need to stop and charge, making them more convenient and practical for long-distance driving. However, the high costs of retrofitting existing roads with the necessary infrastructure is seen as a major challenge to widespread adoption.
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Also, one of Tesla's rare company acquisitions is one that came up with a high inductive charging matt placed on your garage floor. It's not clear if Tesla plans on commercializing this or put it in a drawer and forget about it.
 
SunTrader said:
Talk about paying a toll. Also the ability to track vehicles.

Although same can be done currently with EasyPass or down here in Florida with SunPass. Though SP unit can be placed in a foil pouch if one chooses not to use it all the time. And there are certainly cameras out the ying yang wherever you go.

But all this Jetsons stuff is still off in the distance. Norway is not the world.
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Lol, that reminds me of my pastor brother who preferred to wait 20 mn in line at the bridge to pay cash rather than drive through with a trackable Fast Pass... The level of paranoia in the US is stunning.
 
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