the end of UK.. RIP.

[dont]

Quote from 4XQs:

The thing is, ID cards does not provide any protection.

Next thing, muslims will need to wear a golden crescent on their chest...

T hats a damn good point.

Those pictures of the Jews in Nazi Europe still send a shiver down my spine.

Remember the Gestapo were always asking for every bodies "papers"

 

[achilles28]

Quote from BuyHiSellLo:

I think you're wrong so we'll have to agree to disagree,as I've already said I've got nothing to hide and honestly a few hundred quid for an ID card isn't going to break me so the cost isn't an issue for me either

"Nothing to hide", has got nothing to do with it!

Its about acquiescing civil rights to a Government who monopolizes them.

When Government hold most of the cards, and the people few, you'll get a Parliamentary Dictatorship or a sham democracy.

Sure, people will still "Vote". But their votes mean nothing as the Parliament has stripped Citizens of their means to affect political change (read: their CIVIL RIGHTS) and given it to themselves!!

Candidates will offer sham options on a controlled paradigm:

Should the Green Tax be increased by 20, or 30%?

Should the Government DNA database keep records for 20, or 30 years?

Should the Government keep some phone records? Or all of them?

These policies are already in effect, btw.

England has turned into a big pile of steaming shit.

Enjoy.

 

[gnome]

Quote from achilles28:

"Nothing to hide", has got nothing to do with it!

Its about acquiescing civil rights to a Government who monopolizes them.

When Government hold most or all of the cards, and the people few, you'll get a Parliamentary Dictatorship or a sham democracy.

Sure, people will still "Vote". But their votes mean nothing as the Parliament has stripped Citizens of their means to affect political change (read: their CIVIL RIGHTS) and given it to themselves!!

Candidates will offer sham options on a controlled paradigm:

Should the Green Tax be increased by 20, or 30%?

Should the Government DNA database keep records for 20, or 30 years?

Should the Government keep some phone records? Or all of them?

These policies are already in effect, btw.

England has turned into a big pile of steaming shit.

Enjoy.

America is traveling a similar path.. unfortunately only a small percentage of us "get it"...

 

[DrEvil]

Hitler got into power because he promissed to fight (in his words btw) "the war on terror" and to weed out "terror cells" living in germany, everyone was forced to carry their "papers". Just coincidence or something more?

 

[achilles28]

Quote from gnome:

America is traveling a similar path.. unfortunately only a small percentage of us "get it"...

Yep x 10000%

 

[BuyHiSellLo]

Quote from DrEvil:

Hitler got into power because he promissed to fight (in his words btw) "the war on terror" and to weed out "terror cells" living in germany, everyone was forced to carry their "papers". Just coincidence or something more?

Are you now saying that Gordon Brown or David Cameron can be likened to Hitler?

 

[achilles28]

Quote from BuyHiSellLo:

When you find out what a 'police state' actually is you will be able to post with a little more knowledge until then do me a favour and piss off you shit on my shoes fat yank cunt.

East Germany doesn't happen overnight, you dumb fuck.

Britain is about half-way to a hardcore Police State.

Right now, its all velvet glove, "its-for-your-own-protection" bullshit. And the sycophantic cowards just eat it up!!

 

[DrEvil]

Quote from BuyHiSellLo:

Are you now saying that Gordon Brown or David Cameron can be likened to Hitler?

No, I'm merely saying what I wrote. That is, the british government has been and continues to following the rhetoric; to the letter; that Hitler used to take away civil liberties and impose facism on the germany society. That's scary I think.

 

[BuyHiSellLo]

what a right fucking dickhead you really are!

you've realised what a police state is and now your trying to backtrack.

just fuck off you thick as shit yank cunt

 

[achilles28]

Quote from DrEvil:

Hitler got into power because he promissed to fight (in his words btw) "the war on terror" and to weed out "terror cells" living in germany, everyone was forced to carry their "papers". Just coincidence or something more?

Its the exact same blueprint stretched out over a longer time frame, adopted by several countries.

Exaggerate external threats. Hype paranoia. Enact police state legislation. Track and trace everyone. Secret prisons. Dissolve parliamentary power. Absorb civil and parliamentary power into the Executive.

Its happening.

Generated and hyped threats provide the impetus to drop the hammer.