The End of America

[ARealGannTrader]

Quote from dve250:

The coming civil war to try and take control of this country that the conservatives are going to start is going to be one bloody hell. All in the name of patriotism and their goD. They are the enemy within.

There will be no civil war. We can't afford it on any level.

There are no rational conservatives that stupid. The irrational ones are a tiny minority, that's why they stand out so.

Believe it or not our situation is much more precarious than when Lincoln was in the white house. We weren't imperialists yet, and did not have an enemies list three miles long.

But if skimishes did occur, and the military were not central in the division, then it would be a one day war. Back then there was no thermal imaging, no Apache gunships, no predator drones, no CS gas, no tanks, no APCs, and no satellite technology.

Federal military might is such that there will never be an armed uprising in this nation of any consequence, and anyone who has had any contact with the military will attest to that.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

I think the point is that u sound partisan in ur critiques.

How can one who does not belong to a party be partisan? Until these fruits can put someone up thats worth a damn, I am not voting either. Its that simple.

With that being said, I believe a lot of the coverage by the media of Bush was downright mean and hateful. They gave him credit for nothing. On the otherhand, Obama can do no wrong. Even when he reverses himself and adopts the same position that Bush had. Obama is learning fast that there are alot of folks out there that plan on inflicting great pain on the US if they have a chance, and fighting them does not have any simple clear-cut options. This whole idea that these threats are made up or false, or are just used as fear-mongering must be blind. Bush certainly screwed up a lot of stuff in the country but the way he has executed the war on terror has been pretty good. If this lady is concerned with civil liberties, fine, I have no problem with that. If you run around comparing Bush to Hitler then it sounds like it was simply a presentation she put together to appeal to her statist, Bush-hating friends.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

Quote from ARealGannTrader:
There will be no civil war. We can't afford it on any level.

When exactly can one afford a civil war. We couldn't afford the last one, but it still happened. This is a dangerous assumption

Quote from ARealGannTrader:
But if skimishes did occur, and the military were not central in the division, then it would be a one day war. Back then there was no thermal imaging, no Apache gunships, no predator drones, no CS gas, no tanks, no APCs, and no satellite technology.

Federal military might is such that there will never be an armed uprising in this nation of any consequence, and anyone who has had any contact with the military will attest to that.

Another dangerous assumption. We have all that technology but the Taliban and the insurgents in Iraq are proving to be a real torn in our side. Of course if it happened during Obama's presidency he would put the rebellion down without violating anyone's civil rights and everybody would be happy.

 

[gigsup]

This thread has become a big fat waste of time

 

[ARealGannTrader]

Quote from gigsup:

This thread has become a big fat waste of time

I liked ur last post better. No, we cannot say what will happen, but I don't think there are enough combat troops who will not stand for the preservation of the union.

If I am wrong, well, I enjoyed this lil chat, as there won't be anymore like it anytime soon.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

...There are no rational conservatives that stupid. The irrational ones are a tiny minority, that's why they stand out so...

And they crowd the corridors of ET.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from drjekyllus:

...With that being said, I believe a lot of the coverage by the media of Bush was downright mean and hateful. They gave him credit for nothing...

If Bush had actually done nothing, your country would have been better off for it.

 

[gigsup]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

I liked ur last post better. No, we cannot say what will happen, but I don't think there are enough combat troops who will not stand for the preservation of the union.

If I am wrong, well, I enjoyed this lil chat, as there won't be anymore like it anytime soon.

Well, I deleted it because I would hate to see things get that bad. The problem is there are some out there way more extreme than I am, that really do not care what happens. You know what i mean.

I would hate to see the Feds push things too far and ignite it.

Anyway, I am going to move on and leave it to you fellas.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from Thunderdog:

If Bush had actually done nothing, your country would have been better off for it.

Thats what Clinton did through the '90s and that really worked out well. So Thudermutt's idea is to let people hijack planes and fly them into buildings, killing thousands, and then do nothing about it. Great idea.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from drjekyllus:

Thats what Clinton did through the '90s and that really worked out well. So Thudermutt's idea is to let people hijack planes and fly them into buildings, killing thousands, and then do nothing about it. Great idea.

You're right. That was the one instance where Bush did nothing (despite dire warnings from Richard Clarke of impending attacks possibly involving aircraft) but perhaps should have done something.