The numbers don't tell the whole story. What drove those numbers? Well, when you overlook years of corruption and incompetence just because you want a woman candidate, that's a problem for your candidate. When you continually insult tens of millions of people calling them a bunch of stupid racists, that's a problem for your candidate. When you have a guy saying the system is rigged, and then you see day after day of evidence that the system is in fact rigged, people take note of that, and that's a problem for your candidate. When you prematurely bury the white voting block and decree that only Black and Hispanics matter, you have just pissed off several million people wo rarely vote and now they will, that's a problem for your candidate. When you have a media that so brazenly campaigns for one candidate and admits the willingness to do anything to beat the other guy, that's a problem for your candidate. And finally, when you continue to live in this fantasy world that government works when it's so painfully obvious that it doesn't, that's a problem for your candidate.
The Election Autopsy
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You can compare years, and what seem to be important is the variation in the number of abstentionists.
The abstentionists among democrats seem to have been huge.
You can compare years, and what seem to be important is the variation in the number of abstentionists.
The abstentionists among democrats seem to have been huge.
That, and too, how many are hurting after 30 years of declining, inflation adjusted wages. What Trump taught me was that telling people what they want to hear will be perceived as truth, regardless of facts. Trump is a master of at first perceiving what people want to hear, and than parroting it back to them. I learned what a powerful, and manipulative, political tool this can be. I am rather in awe of his skill in this regard. As President, I fully expect him to continue employing this same technique, to achieve his ends, including fanning the flames of discord when that suits his purpose.
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any graphic/chart ?
Reasons for people to have decided to go and vote:
- corruption & incompetence
- labelling voters
- being divisive on ethnic grounds
- showing lack of integrity
- not looking to realities
Do you think that are also the reasons democrats decided not to vote?
Is there a way to quantify the Bernie issue ?
going over some sites on Bernie-Hillary : looks like Bernie actually was democrat favorite ??????
Yes I do. The average democratic voter has had to suffer the same insults to their intelligence, the same elitist indifference to their problems that the republican voter has been made to endure. While they couldn't bring themselves to actually go in to the booth and vote for Trump in any significant numbers, they cast their vote by staying home.
Actually, i might have to rethink what i said about dems. In the previous elections before obama, the voting was pretty tight. It was just in the '08 and '12 years that there was a great surge of dem voters for our first halfrican candidate. In '16, dems more or less went back down to normal. Maybe this is about the level of voting we can expect going forward, unless somebody really hypes up their entire party. I thought Trump had the republican party hyped up just like obama did, but the establishment republicans must have stayed home.