The Election Autopsy
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this is part of the issue.... statists pretending they care about people.
We have a whole bunch of Americans voting anti establishment - anti statist - and a return for caring about the little guy. And you wish to reframe this as propaganda. This is what orwell warned us of. you take ideas and reframe into lies which serve the state.
1. the media was rigged against him. look at how slanted the polls were until the last 10 days.
2. bringing a massive wave of immigrants year after years does hurt wages and does increase risk of terrorism
3. hillary was and is a crook
4. Obama has destroyed the middle east and given nukes to iran
5. the list of truths goes on and on
the problematic rhetoric about hispanics is just about the only argument you have in support of your commie like thesis... and trump dropped that rhetoric way back.
We have a whole bunch of Americans voting anti establishment - anti statist - and a return for caring about the little guy. And you wish to reframe this as propaganda. This is what orwell warned us of. you take ideas and reframe into lies which serve the state.
1. the media was rigged against him. look at how slanted the polls were until the last 10 days.
2. bringing a massive wave of immigrants year after years does hurt wages and does increase risk of terrorism
3. hillary was and is a crook
4. Obama has destroyed the middle east and given nukes to iran
5. the list of truths goes on and on
the problematic rhetoric about hispanics is just about the only argument you have in support of your commie like thesis... and trump dropped that rhetoric way back.
nitro is correct. good breakdown...
here is...
the natives voted against unfettered immigration.
Trump may have created a new party. (I hope so.) I heard it said it was a new party with and old name.
he united the tax payers against the cronies...
the native americans... (natives being defined as born here) knew... and voted against immigration...
1. you know the establishment is trying to dilute their vote with immigration from countries with a more socialist / let the cronies rule culture
2. they know more immigration dilutes wages and helps crony owned business by creating govt funded demand through welfare give ways... crating a quad whammy and destructive cycle... .
wages go down
taxes are raised
inflation goes up...
demand for the same goods and services causes prices of necessities to rise.
and then neighbors even vote for more leftist ideas... to support all the new people brought in.
here is the section which explains...
Trump Counties Have More Voters Who are U.S.-Born
About 1 in every 7 Americans were born outside the U.S., but there are still large swaths of the country where 97 percent or more of the population was born in America. In these areas, Trump outperformed Clinton 65 percent to 30 percent — a 7 percentage-point improvement over Romney in 2012.
Vote margin in 2016 election0%102030405060708090Percentageof countyborn inthe U.S.03.0M6.1M9.1M12M15M03.0M6.1M9.1M12M15MRep AvgDem Avg
How highlighted counties voted0%20406080100
here is...
the natives voted against unfettered immigration.
Trump may have created a new party. (I hope so.) I heard it said it was a new party with and old name.
he united the tax payers against the cronies...
the native americans... (natives being defined as born here) knew... and voted against immigration...
1. you know the establishment is trying to dilute their vote with immigration from countries with a more socialist / let the cronies rule culture
2. they know more immigration dilutes wages and helps crony owned business by creating govt funded demand through welfare give ways... crating a quad whammy and destructive cycle... .
wages go down
taxes are raised
inflation goes up...
demand for the same goods and services causes prices of necessities to rise.
and then neighbors even vote for more leftist ideas... to support all the new people brought in.
here is the section which explains...
Trump Counties Have More Voters Who are U.S.-Born
About 1 in every 7 Americans were born outside the U.S., but there are still large swaths of the country where 97 percent or more of the population was born in America. In these areas, Trump outperformed Clinton 65 percent to 30 percent — a 7 percentage-point improvement over Romney in 2012.
Vote margin in 2016 election0%102030405060708090Percentageof countyborn inthe U.S.03.0M6.1M9.1M12M15M03.0M6.1M9.1M12M15MRep AvgDem Avg
How highlighted counties voted0%20406080100
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As democrats are dissecting this political corpse they may want to ask themselves why in the world they chose someone like Hillary, who has zero personality, after seeing that the only thing that has kept Obama in decent standing with the people is his glowing personality.
They may also want to recognize that while America just loves a winner, we also hold the idea of fair play in high standing. We really like people who can run fast, jump high, hit a baseball a mile, but if you can't do it on the up and up you're dismissed as a cheat. So when you have some corrupt piece of shit like Harry Reid called out on his lies about Romney and he says, we won, as if that's all that matters, people take notice. When you have a political hacks like the ones over at CNN exposed as being in collusion with the DNC along with the candidate herself, and all they say is they have no regrets, people take notice. When you have major media outlets like the NYT writing articles saying it's so important to beat Trump they'll cross any line of journalist integrity to do so, people take notice. When you have one person after another taking the fifth when questioned about the e-mails, a candidate who hides for months from all media questions about the issue, intentionally subverts congressional inquiry by deleting tens of thousand of e-mails, and then has the audacity to say she has nothing to hide, people take notice.
And they might want to check their bias which is so strong that otherwise intelligent people can make such a stupid fucking decision as to bring a candidate like Hillary Clinton as their #1 choice when they knew this shit up front.
They may also want to recognize that while America just loves a winner, we also hold the idea of fair play in high standing. We really like people who can run fast, jump high, hit a baseball a mile, but if you can't do it on the up and up you're dismissed as a cheat. So when you have some corrupt piece of shit like Harry Reid called out on his lies about Romney and he says, we won, as if that's all that matters, people take notice. When you have a political hacks like the ones over at CNN exposed as being in collusion with the DNC along with the candidate herself, and all they say is they have no regrets, people take notice. When you have major media outlets like the NYT writing articles saying it's so important to beat Trump they'll cross any line of journalist integrity to do so, people take notice. When you have one person after another taking the fifth when questioned about the e-mails, a candidate who hides for months from all media questions about the issue, intentionally subverts congressional inquiry by deleting tens of thousand of e-mails, and then has the audacity to say she has nothing to hide, people take notice.
And they might want to check their bias which is so strong that otherwise intelligent people can make such a stupid fucking decision as to bring a candidate like Hillary Clinton as their #1 choice when they knew this shit up front.
Ah yes. You're a "special kind" of Libertarian that believes in government bailouts to corporations and big government entitlements. I forgot that ol' joke. Good one.
Have you ever voted for a Republican in a presidential general election ? If so , who did you vote for?
I suggest you characterize your own position on issues, and allow others the same courtesy.
Goldwater.
