Where in my post did I mention “Chinese“?
The Effectiveness of Wearing a Mask Against Covid-19
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Where in my post did I mention “Chinese“?
Ok, you are being silly. Or are you? Trying to trigger me? If so, It worked.
In this post, I’m going to discuss the historic benefits of our economic/cultural system and put up for debate whether we should embrace the Communist takeover upon election of Joe Biden.
On several levels, the Corona virus “issue” and this discussion goes hand in hand.
Fundamental to our system is the idea that power emanates from the people. The people elect a representative form of Government who in turn represent the people’s interests. This is in contrast to other forms of Government, such as monarchy’s. Communist leaders seem to me to be a group of intellectuals who believe they, themselves know what is best, not the people.
The American experiment prosperity and innovation engine:
In the American experiment, individuals are responsible for their own decisions. Individuals benefit from their good decisions and suffer the consequences of their bad decisions. Over the course of time and as the effects of various decisions are felt, both positive and negative, that individual will likely start to think about how to make better decisions; to come up with methodologies and principles so the harmful bad decisions are minimized. Not long after a individual implements a sound methodology, they start to prosper and gain increasing confidence in their decision making. The feeling that whatever challenge comes along, they will be able to effectively deal with it. This increased confidence encourages risk taking. Risk taking as in willingness to open a business for their further prosperity and the possibility to capitalize on a market inefficiency, creating a win-win situation for them and our community. This individual will seek resources for their business idea. Land, labor, and capital. The basic components of production. The combined actions of entrepreneurs stimulate the economy and more efficient utilization of resources and can take a life of its own. An “invisible hand”, if you will.
So in some ways, this invisible hand follows the laws of nature. Adjusting to conditions, with the strong prospering and the weak getting left behind. What comes to mind when you think who the Democratic Party caters to and what their ideals are?
The Democrats, aka Communist Party, seem to believe that a group of intellectuals, Government types know better how things should be managed; their intellect is greater than the combined force of a million decisions in either a competitive marketplace or in personal decisions in general.
Just as there is theory, there is practical application. In reasoning, there is emotional based and analytical based.
The Democrats talk theory and use emotionalism in convince people to accept their ideas, but when it results, practical benefits just don’t materialize.
Unfortunately for the Republicans, there are other ingredients necessary for risk taking and systemic robustness: Integrity. Rule of law. A risk taker’s expectation they are on a level playing field and will be able to effectively address inequities in court. This is why corruption and influence buying by large corporations has such a detrimental effect on our system. Risk takers may feel the game is rigged against them and decide to not compete, costing us all in efficiency driving competition and innovation.
Noteworthy was the lack of response in a thread I started on corruption titled “I Broke my Boy”. I posted an article on a prominent Ohio Republican politician being arrested on corruption charges. The Leftists know that subject is loaded, so they know better than to come a knockin’. However, for Republicans this issue is a foundational part of our system. There can be no tolerance for corruption. No matter where it comes from.
This brings up the fundamental point: Is it better to have a centralized government making decisions into most aspects of our lives because individuals left on their own are too stupid or are the combined, informed actions of all individuals is more representative of society and efficient than a government could ever be?
For reference, look at our handling of the Covid-19 crisis and the response of a good number of American people, including Conservative posters on this site. A Communist point well made.
An excerpt from wikipedia.org:
- A] licentious people is not going to sustain republican government. We've got to make sure that republican government, government not only of the people as all government is but by and for the people doesn't perish from the Earth. If we lose it here, it's not as if it's going to be restarted somewhere else.
- Robert P. George, interview with Bill Kristol (April 2016), transcript
- "Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?"
"A Republic, if you can keep it." - Response attributed to Benjamin Franklin at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation, in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland's delegates to the Convention.
What is not wearing PPE in an pandemic about for you? Your rights? What about the rights of those who were infected and died because of those who did not wear PPE?
Are you one of these “Don’t make me wait for my inheritance” kind of people?
Trump threw you under the bus with the masks. Had senility test champ Donny not started his idiocy saying masks were a protest against him bla bla bla none of this no masker bullshit would have happened.
The decision to wear PPE is definately along political lines. I actually was questioned for wearing a mask at my truck terminal by a Conservative couple. I simply said I researched and know about Covid. Suprisingly, they retrieved some masks and put them on. I wonder if contempt accidentially showed itself on my face? There are many Conservatives at my truck terminal. They will not normally wear masks.
I believe at some level, Conservatives know they should be wearing masks. Perhaps if Trump gave strong encouragement, his supporters would get on board. As far as being mistaken for Antifa, show a few grey hairs, don’t tear down statues, and don’t smash business windows and they will be fine.
I agree. All throughout history, man has done 'wrong' things knowingly.
I'm impressed with people that can do the right things, regardless the pressure to do wrong.
How much more it is going to take to get Americans to wear PPE? Highlighted point near bottom of article.
Rapid Decay of Anti–SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies in Persons with Mild Covid-19
Rapid Decay of Anti–SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies in Persons with Mild Covid-19
TO THE EDITOR:
A recent article suggested the rapid decay of anti–SARS-CoV-2 IgG in early infection,1 but the rate was not described in detail. We evaluated persons who had recovered from Covid-19 and referred themselves to our institution for observational research. Written informed consent was obtained from all the participants, with approval by the institutional review board. Blood samples were analyzed by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) to detect anti–SARS-CoV-2 spike receptor-binding domain IgG.2 The ELISA was further modified to precisely quantify serum anti–receptor-binding domain activity in terms of equivalence to the concentration of a control anti–receptor-binding domain monoclonal IgG (CR3022, Creative Biolabs).
Infection had been confirmed by polymerase-chain-reaction assay in 30 of the 34 participants. The other 4 participants had had symptoms compatible with Covid-19 and had cohabitated with persons who were known to have Covid-19 but were not tested because of mild illness and the limited availability of testing. Most of the participants had mild illness; 2 received low-flow supplemental oxygen and leronlimab (a CCR5 antagonist), but they did not receive remdesivir. There were 20 women and 14 men. The mean age was 43 years (range, 21 to 68) (see the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org).
A total of 31 of the 34 participants had two serial measurements of IgG levels, and the remaining 3 participants had three serial measurements. The first measurement was obtained at a mean of 37 days after the onset of symptoms (range, 18 to 65), and the last measurement was obtained at a mean of 86 days after the onset of symptoms (range, 44 to 119).
Figure 1.Longitudinal Assessment of Anti–SARS-CoV-2 Receptor-Binding Domain IgG in Persons Who Recovered from Covid-19.
The initial mean IgG level was 3.48 log10 ng per milliliter (range, 2.52 to 4.41). On the basis of a linear regression model that included the participants’ age and sex, the days from symptom onset to the first measurement, and the first log10antibody level, the estimated mean change (slope) was −0.0083 log10 ng per milliliter per day (range, −0.0352 to 0.0062), which corresponds to a half-life of approximately 36 days over the observation period (Figure 1A). The 95% confidence interval for the slope was −0.0115 to −0.0050 log10 ng per milliliter per day (half-life, 26 to 60 days) (Figure 1B).
The protective role of antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, but these antibodies are usually a reasonable correlate of antiviral immunity, and anti–receptor-binding domain antibody levels correspond to plasma viral neutralizing activity. Given that early antibody decay after acute viral antigenic exposure is approximately exponential,3 we found antibody loss that was quicker than that reported for SARS-CoV-1,4,5 and our findings were more consistent with those of Long et al.1 Our findings raise concern that humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not be long lasting in persons with mild illness, who compose the majority of persons with Covid-19. It is difficult to extrapolate beyond our observation period of approximately 90 days because it is likely that the decay will decelerate.3 Still, the results call for caution regarding antibody-based “immunity passports,” herd immunity, and perhaps vaccine durability, especially in light of short-lived immunity against common human coronaviruses. Further studies will be needed to define a quantitative protection threshold and rate of decline of antiviral antibodies beyond 90 days.
F. Javier Ibarrondo, Ph.D.
Jennifer A. Fulcher, M.D., Ph.D.
David Goodman-Meza, M.D.
Julie Elliott, M.S.
Christian Hofmann, Ph.D.
Mary A. Hausner, M.S.
Kathie G. Ferbas, Ph.D.
Nicole H. Tobin, M.D.
Grace M. Aldrovandi, M.D.
Otto O. Yang, M.D.
David Geffen School of Medicine at University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
oyang@mednet.ucla.edu
Supported by grants from the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation (2019086), the National Institutes of Health (AI124979, AI131879, AI140775, AI068616, AI068632, and AI106716), the James B. Pendleton Charitable Trust, and the McCarthy Family Foundation.
Disclosure forms provided by the authors are available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org.
This letter was published on July 21, 2020, and last updated on July 24, 2020, at NEJM.org.
Drs. Ibarrondo, Fulcher, Aldrovandi, and Yang contributed equally to this letter
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMx200017?query=recirc_curatedRelated_article
Real leadership.
The thing twisting conservative biscuits in the larger scheme is this is role reversal as they are they are inherently, due to well documented brain structural differences, more finnacky about corruption and disease.