The Deniers told us COVID doesn't hurt Children

Bugenhagen said:
The flu killed nearly 200 children last season. This time, 1 has died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/03/02/children-flu-deaths/
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Changes in case reporting methodology and or does influenza test positive on Covid tests? How are children deaths in the US due to pneumonia being classified?

What are the long term statistics on child influenza deaths?

Don’t worry, while I’’m currently relying on memory, I will be posting relevant statistics in time, using sources that include respected printed materials, which I’ll post a photo of, if search engines fail.

There is a long history of statistical reporting methodologies being changed in the US, often after a regulatory push, in an effort to show “Progress” on an issue has been made. For example, the definitions for unemployment rates have changed multiple times, in the US, and other countries, for that matter. Can you guess in what way these methodologies changed? The reporting threshold of nuclear accidents has been changed in the US. Since then, the number of “Major nuclear accidents and incidents” has dropped from 1 or 2 per year to 0, most years, the last time I checked. Feel safer, do you? In trucking, there was a major regulatory push with involving electronic logs and subsequent changes in “Reportable accident” thresholds. Guess which direction those thresholds went? Even regardless of the accident reporting thresholds being increased, big truck accidents have been on the rise in recent recent years, reversing a decade plus decline of fatality rates involving big trucks and passenger vehicles. Log fraud is down, but once the day is started, it is often impractical to stop for a nap, if needed, effectively forcing a driver to “Push through” a period of being less alert or sick.

Too often harmful policy changes are sold as solving a problem, including those problems that are contrived, to implement a hidden agenda, that if otherwise publicly known, would spark outrage that could result in changing political fortunes.

You know where this all leads to, don’t you? The media and corporations misuse statistics to influence public opinion for power and profits? The suppression of dissenting opinions through intimidation and censorship? However, the full information is still out there. Somewhere. So again, while search engines may play games with their algorithms, website content can be changed, printed books cannot. Or can they? Fahrenheit 451, anyone? Except, in order for the concept of “The book people” in the story to work, trust must be established. In the present day, there is not a lot of that going around, is there?

There are many reasons for intelligent, reasonable people to disagree on significant issues. They are: short versus long term thinking, relative differences in weighing various points, differences in depth of understanding the issue, and so on.

While the vast majority of people are good. I have to wonder about some of our executives and politicians. What comes to mind when you hear the word, Sacklers? (Opioid crisis). Martin Shkreli (Turing pharmaceuticals, extreme price gouging), David Koch? (No memory jog needed). What words would you use to describe the characters of the aforementioned?

So if you have some statistics to prove me wrong, please post them, and if they are truly reflective of reality, I’ll shut up about the issue. A form of self censorship for cause, if you will! Who could ask for more!
 
BeautifulStranger said:
I searched on the top ten causes of children’s death and found information from the CDC for 2019. Interesting that other statistics for 2020 and 2021 show flu infections are down. Will someone with a flu infection show positive on a Covid test?

Now let’s talk about the statistics that are rarely posted, such as children Covid death rates per 100,000. Leading causes of children's deaths rates are much greater than the rare deaths due to Covid. Of those children who died of Covid, they likely would have died from influenza or pneumonia from another cause, due to their weak immune system or other congenital health issue.

The way statistics are used by the pro-vaccine media is misleading. For example, when “Infant Covid deaths rise by 33%”, it can mean simply that instead of 3 infants dying of a particular reporting period, 4 died. That one extra death, while tragic, does not justify the recommendation of a Covid vaccine(s) for all children because of fundamental, long term adverse effects on their immune system . Sure, some vaccines net beneficial for some particularly dangerous viruses, but Covid is not one of them. Supporting my contention are studies involving children and allergies. Over concern of increasing allergy rates in children, particularly in the US, studies found the cause to be children spending “Too much” time in an “Excessively clean” home. In other words, natural immune stress for the young can be beneficial for children to properly develop their immune system for better long term health. Sure, some children will die, but how long would they have survived anyway? Or is that exactly what our for-profit healthcare system wants: Chronically sick children in need of a steady stream of products for their entire life?

As it is, mandates for health insurance coverage created a third party payment system that effectively causes increased demand for healthcare than would otherwise be the case. More healthcare is not better healthcare as shown by comparative US infant mortality versus many first world nations.

Twice per year Covid shots will be a wrecking ball for anyone’s long term health, I suspect, especially when these vaccinations are started from a young age. Let us use vaccinations for the truly dangerous pathogens.
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First let's address your assertion "Will someone with a flu infection show positive on a Covid test?" -- a claim which has been constantly pushed by Covid-deniers.

Fact check: CDC test doesn't conflate COVID-19 virus with influenza
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...conflate-covid-19-virus-influenza/5388263001/
 
BeautifulStranger said:
Changes in case reporting methodology and or does influenza test positive on Covid tests? How are children deaths in the US due to pneumonia being classified?

What are the long term statistics on child influenza deaths?

Don’t worry, while I’’m currently relying on memory, I will be posting relevant statistics in time, using sources that include respected printed materials, which I’ll post a photo of, if search engines fail.

There is a long history of statistical reporting methodologies being changed in the US, often after a regulatory push, in an effort to show “Progress” on an issue has been made. For example, the definitions for unemployment rates have changed multiple times, in the US, and other countries, for that matter. Can you guess in what way these methodologies changed? The reporting threshold of nuclear accidents has been changed in the US. Since then, the number of “Major nuclear accidents and incidents” has dropped from 1 or 2 per year to 0, most years, the last time I checked. Feel safer, do you? In trucking, there was a major regulatory push with involving electronic logs and subsequent changes in “Reportable accident” thresholds. Guess which direction those thresholds went? Even regardless of the accident reporting thresholds being increased, big truck accidents have been on the rise in recent recent years, reversing a decade plus decline of fatality rates involving big trucks and passenger vehicles. Log fraud is down, but once the day is started, it is often impractical to stop for a nap, if needed, effectively forcing a driver to “Push through” a period of being less alert or sick.

Too often harmful policy changes are sold as solving a problem, including those problems that are contrived, to implement a hidden agenda, that if otherwise publicly known, would spark outrage that could result in changing political fortunes.

You know where this all leads to, don’t you? The media and corporations misuse statistics to influence public opinion for power and profits? The suppression of dissenting opinions through intimidation and censorship? However, the full information is still out there. Somewhere. So again, while search engines may play games with their algorithms, website content can be changed, printed books cannot. Or can they? Fahrenheit 451, anyone? Except, in order for the concept of “The book people” in the story to work, trust must be established. In the present day, there is not a lot of that going around, is there?

There are many reasons for intelligent, reasonable people to disagree on significant issues. They are: short versus long term thinking, relative differences in weighing various points, differences in depth of understanding the issue, and so on.

While the vast majority of people are good. I have to wonder about some of our executives and politicians. What comes to mind when you hear the word, Sacklers? (Opioid crisis). Martin Shkreli (Turing pharmaceuticals, extreme price gouging), David Koch? (No memory jog needed). What words would you use to describe the characters of the aforementioned?

So if you have some statistics to prove me wrong, please post them, and if they are truly reflective of reality, I’ll shut up about the issue. A form of self censorship for cause, if you will! Who could ask for more!
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Again, too long didn't read as its just babble. Flu does not get confused with Covid.

Remember that the US seems big to you from your stereotypical parochial viewpoint but its just 4% of global population. This was all covered the northern hemisphere summer of 2020/southern winter.

Masks and general sanatary caution surpresses covid, it kicks influenza's ass entirely (which survives through kids/schools every winter). Some cold mild viruses are resilliant, one particular virus was interesting in that its surpression one year caused a surge in cases after.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...own-virus-that-surged-in-children-this-summer

This is stuff parents just know all too well from suffering years of illnesses brought home by the snotty little monsters. Don't try and teach parents to suck eggs as it were.
 
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I swear the only thing he will be known for is something like a somehow comically failed truck bomb attempt against an abandoned Dairy Queen when he gets some fool conspiracy about it in his head.
 
Ohio health care workers warn of 'astronomical' COVID-19 pediatric surge
Ohio has the country's second highest total of pediatric COVID hospitalizations.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ohio-health-care-workers-warn-astronomical-covid-19/story?id=80309375

Although coronavirus-related hospitalizations are beginning to trend down nationally among all age groups, the rate of pediatric infections remains at an "exceptionally high" level, according to experts.

Across the country, federal data shows that nearly 2,000 children are currently hospitalized with confirmed or suspected cases of COVID-19. In recent weeks, as the viral surge in the South is finally showing signs of abatement, pediatric hospital admissions have fallen by more than 30%. However, on average, more than 250 children continue to be admitted to the hospital each day with the virus.

n Ohio, which currently has the country's second highest total of pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations, the crisis among children remains at a critical level.

Front-line workers at Dayton Children's Hospital told ABC News they have seen a "record number" of virus-positive patients, since the highly infectious delta variant hit the state over the summer.

"We're seeing an increase in our census that's been astronomical," said charge nurse Will Andres. "[It's] pretty hard to keep our heads above water, day in and day out."

As of Wednesday, more than 210 children are hospitalized with COVID-19, across the state.

"We are seeing more and more positive results. We're seeing more and more people coming in and requesting testing. It's just overwhelming," Amy Temple, a pediatric emergency room nurse, said.

Earlier this month, the CEOs of Ohio's six children's hospitals joined together with the Ohio Children's Hospitals Association to raise the alarm about the significant increase in hospitalized kids with the coronavirus.

"This is a reality for us today. And it's threatening the capacity of our pediatric safety net in ways we have never experienced before," the group wrote in a letter.

Many front-line workers reported that children appear to be getting sicker than at previous points in the pandemic -- particularly adolescents who have not been vaccinated.

"Some of these kids are getting very sick. They're requiring extra assistance to make them able to breathe. We're having to do a lot of extra intervention, whether it's either putting in a breathing tube and putting on a ventilator or with just a mask to provide oxygenation and ventilation," Hilary O'Neill, a respiratory therapist at Dayton Children's Hospital, explained. "There are definitely a lot sicker than we had ever seen before."

The influx of patients in need of care has left some front-line workers feeling overwhelmed, overworked and mentally drained.

"At this point, I'm emotionally exhausted. Kids keep getting sicker, and we are busy, and every day we come in and there just doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel anymore," Temple said.

Michele Nadolsky, a clinical team leader in the emergency room, and a 28-year veteran of the hospital, added that she feels an "overwhelming sense of defeat," particularly as a "large" number of nurses leave the business, resulting in staffing shortages.

Although severe disease among children remains "uncommon," according to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association, the potential for long-term consequences among children who test positive for the virus is still concerning.

"One of our biggest concerns is what's going to happen in six months to a year from now, after child has recovered from the acute illness of COVID-19, and what kind of symptoms or long-term effect is it going to have on them as they continue to grow and mature," Nadolsky said.

Another worrying trend, one doctor said, is the notable number of children who are often forced to stay alone in the hospital because their parents are battling COVID-19.

"I think most of the time, the children who have COVID infections have another family member, often an adult, who is also sick with COVID," Amit Vohra, a pediatric intensivist at the hospital, said. "Those parents are unable to visit the children at the hospital. Oftentimes, nobody's here with them for some hours of every day. So those are the times that I think our nurses step in to provide that emotional level of support that the children need ... These kids are often short of breath, they're hurting in their chest. They're breathless, they're anxious, they're concerned: Are they 'going to die?'"

The most difficult aspect of this all, according to Karen Davis, a pediatric intensive care nurse, has been watching so many children suffer through the illness.

"I'm a mother and a grandmother, so I just feel for the kids that are struggling so hard ... I take care of them, like I would want them to take care of my child," said an emotional Davis. "One of the biggest fears parents have to take care of their children is that they may die, and they may not get out of the hospital alive."
 
Every day more Covid deaths of children are reported - now at a record rate over the past few weeks. Yet the Covid-deniers still try to claim that Covid does not harm children.

Mom Calls Out Anti-Vaxxers After Young Daughter Dies Of COVID Just Days After Developing Symptoms
https://tinyurl.com/4yb29ybn
 
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