The Demolition of Russia's Economy

[terr]

In regarding your post I heard Russia plans to severely restrict noble gas export imminently which will result in total collapse of Taiwanese semiconductor industry

https://habr.com/ru/post/661637/

Злободневный вопрос по поводу самого критичного компонента микроэлектронного производства, поставленного под угрозу действиями России - неон. Крупнейшие поставщики очищенного промышленного неона — компании «Ингаз» (Мариуполь) и «Криоин» (Одесса). Обе эти компании сейчас не работают, а до войны активно применяли российское сырье. Прекращение поставок этого сырья вынудит потребителей искать других поставщиков, вероятно более дорогих. Но никакими принципиальными проблемами мировому рынку эта ситуация не грозит, потому что ведущая роль российского сырья была обусловлена его дешевизной, а не эксклюзивностью.

 

[terr]

Oh and more in depth (for your general education)

https://thebell.io/eto-ne-fabrika-p...siya-budet-zhit-bez-zapadnoy-mikroelektroniki

 

[kashirin]

Oh and more in depth (for your general education)

https://thebell.io/eto-ne-fabrika-p...siya-budet-zhit-bez-zapadnoy-mikroelektroniki

Why do you spend your time on Russian sites so much? According to you Russian MSM is 100% propaganda.

I honestly don't care what sanctions imposes Taiwan against Russia or any other micro developments.

For now it's quite obvious economically Russia winning big time. Europe suffers enormously from its own sanctions and Russia doesn't know what to do with all those euros

 

[Tsing Tao]

Why do you spend your time on Russian sites so much? According to you Russian MSM is 100% propaganda.

I honestly don't care what sanctions imposes Taiwan against Russia or any other micro developments.

For now it's quite obvious economically Russia winning big time. Europe suffers enormously from its own sanctions and Russia doesn't know what to do with all those euros

I don't know that I'd go so far as to say Russia is winning anything. The story on the ground in Russia is quite sad and is going to go over the precipice very soon.

But the impacts of the sanctions haven't yet begun to bite - mostly because Europe needs the energy. And they weren't united or prepared for this.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

https://habr.com/ru/post/661637/

Злободневный вопрос по поводу самого критичного компонента микроэлектронного производства, поставленного под угрозу действиями России - неон. Крупнейшие поставщики очищенного промышленного неона — компании «Ингаз» (Мариуполь) и «Криоин» (Одесса). Обе эти компании сейчас не работают, а до войны активно применяли российское сырье. Прекращение поставок этого сырья вынудит потребителей искать других поставщиков, вероятно более дорогих. Но никакими принципиальными проблемами мировому рынку эта ситуация не грозит, потому что ведущая роль российского сырья была обусловлена его дешевизной, а не эксклюзивностью.

"And for Baikal and Elbrus, the main major customers are government agencies. And if the Americans want to ensure that Russian government agencies do not receive microprocessors, then the Chinese semiconductor factory SMIC, which is currently the flagship in mainland China and works mostly on Japanese and Dutch equipment, will not cooperate with Baikal and MCST.

China is more dependent on the opinion of America, respectively, SMIC most likely will not quarrel with the United States because of Russia, because the volume of exports of Chinese microcircuits to the States is many orders of magnitude greater than to Russia. Nothing personal, just business. There is no economic sense of cooperation with Russia, and the risks from this will be colossal."

 

[terr]

For now it's quite obvious economically Russia winning big time.

Delusional.

"Дела в колхозе идут не то что бы плохо, даже хорошо. Но с каждым месяцем все хуже и хуже."

https://www.reuters.com/business/ru...r-economy-ministry-document-shows-2022-04-27/
Russian GDP drop in 2022, according to Russian Economy Ministry's forecasts, will be 8.8% to 12.4%.

Europe's GDP growth forecast for 2022 is 2.7%.

#winning

 

[Tsing Tao]

Delusional.

"Дела в колхозе идут не то что бы плохо, даже хорошо. Но с каждым месяцем все хуже и хуже."

https://www.reuters.com/business/ru...r-economy-ministry-document-shows-2022-04-27/
Russian GDP drop in 2022, according to Russian Economy Ministry's forecasts, will be 8.8% to 12.4%.

Europe's GDP growth forecast for 2022 is 2.7%.

#winning

Can you show how accurate both Russia and Europe's past GDP predictions have been?

 

[terr]

Can you show how accurate both Russia and Europe's past GDP predictions have been?

Russian: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...low-forecast-slowest-since-2017-idUSKCN1SN1X9 - the forecast for 2019 was in the range of 1-2%. Real GDP growth in 2019: 2.2%.

Europe: https://ec.europa.eu/info/publications/european-economic-forecast-summer-2019_en - in 2019 forecast was 1.2%. Real GDP growth in 2019: 1.55%

 

[Tsing Tao]

Russian: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...low-forecast-slowest-since-2017-idUSKCN1SN1X9 - the forecast for 2019 was in the range of 1-2%. Real GDP growth in 2019: 2.2%.

Europe: https://ec.europa.eu/info/publications/european-economic-forecast-summer-2019_en - in 2019 forecast was 1.2%. Real GDP growth in 2019: 1.55%

Just testing these numbers randomly, I get Europe in 2019 at 1.8%.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?end=2020&locations=EU&start=2000&view=chart

 

[terr]

Just testing these numbers randomly, I get Europe in 2019 at 1.8%.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?end=2020&locations=EU&start=2000&view=chart

Different sources, different calculations, but it's not that significant. Fact remains, Russian GDP is projected to drop, hugely. European GDP is projected to increase. #winning? Russian trolls are pathetic.