Having flown on the Delta JFK flight about 100 or so times, I can tell you its between 9-10 and a half hours usually (depending on tail wind or head wind). And the Vladivostok flight is over 11.
The Demolition of Russia's Economy
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Having flown on the Delta JFK flight about 100 or so times, I can tell you its between 9-10 and a half hours usually (depending on tail wind or head wind). And the Vladivostok flight is over 11.
I see what you did there in crafty Russian style.
One or two posters pointed out that Russian logistics are shit, which they are.
Then you covered for their sorry arses a bit by explaining how it is due to or partly due to the fact that Russia is a huge country. Next thing we know we are talking Vladivostock wayy the hell over in Siberia. In fact you can see Sarah Palin's house from Vladivostok.
Fine so far.
Problem is. We were talking Russia and Ukraine and logistics problems there. And relatively speaking, Ukraine is just down the road from Moscow and butts up against Russia, and they have been planning that invasion for decades and ramped it in the last few months.
Bottom line. Russian logistics suck but you earned an extra potato by providing an informative story so that is good too. I guess.
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Speaking of supply and Vladivotosk and Russia though, there was time when it was the Americans who knew that route pretty well and did actually supply Russia from the far east, like from Alaska- during WW3. The Russians were of course our allies and when their supplies got cut off by the Krauts, the American military made regular runs from Alaska across Siberia and came in the back door so to speak. Long haul there. But then again, the Americans are good at logistics.
That's Russian logic. You should compare ALL the countries and see if the total went up or down.
There are countries that will stop or stopped already completelly.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Could-Ban-Russian-Oil-In-Days.html
Germany has already cut Russian oil imports by over 20%, with officials now spreading optimism that it could be only a matter of days before the country is capable of a total embargo on Russian oil.
So far, Germany has dropped Russian oil imports to around 12% of its total oil imports, down from 35% prior to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in late February.
And you say Germany pays more???? LOL.
Speaking of supply and Vladivotosk and Russia though, there was time when it was the Americans who knew that route pretty well and did actually supply Russia from the far east, like from Alaska- during WW3. The Russians were of course our allies and when their supplies got cut off by the Krauts, the American military made regular runs from Alaska across Siberia and came in the back door so to speak. Long haul there. But then again, the Americans are good at logistics.
The air route connected Great Falls, Montana, Edmonton and Whitehorse, Canada, Fairbanks, Galena, and Nome, Alaska. A major field was built in Nome, which was the final point for the planes before they left for Siberia. In the thirty-one months of the program, nearly eight thousand aircraft were sent through Great Falls for transfer to Russia.
The United States and Soviet Union secretly ferried thousands of warplanes from Great Falls to Krasnoyarsk, including the Bell P-39 Airacobra, Bell P-63 Kingcobra, Curtiss C-46 Commando, Curtiss P-40 Warhawk, Douglas A-20 Boston/Havoc, Douglas C-47 Skytrain, North American AT-6 Texas, North American B-25 Mitchell. At the height of the program there were anywhere from 150 to 600 Soviet pilots and other personnel at Ladd Field alone.
The total distance of the ALSIB route from the city of Fairbanks to the city of Krasnoyarsk, Russia, was 6,400 kilometers (3,980 miles). Taking into account the American segment of the route was 4,800 kilometers (3,000 miles) up through Canada. Let’s not forget about the many thousands of kilometers to the frontline airfields, the entire distance was about 14,000 kilometers (8,700 miles).
The first to explore it were twelve Douglas A-20 Havoc bombers. The fleet was led by Lieutenant Colonel P. Nedosekin, and they flew from Fairbanks, Alaska, to Nome, Alaska. On September 29, 1942 the group started from Nome to Markovo, Russia. P. Nedosekin and his comrades crossed Siberia while the Battle of Stalingrad raged. Relations between Soviets and Americans mostly flourished, some even became good acquaintances afterwards, which helped foster a lasting relationship of good will.
https://wargaming.com/en/news/warplanes_siberia_project/
It’s important to remember the Russians (really the Soviet Union) actually worked with the Germans to split up Europe before getting their ass kicked in by the Germans and then the Americans had to bail them out.
Nothing has changed. The Russians are still dumb as ever, greedy, murderous, and sloppy.
To the point of this thread and sanctions on Russia:
The Russians can stockpile euros, rupees, yuan, whatever but the point of money is to buy things with. Currency is just an efficient means of trade, Econ 101. Without access to the western market, the Russians are going down. That German import drop of 65% hurts bad. If you want a modern industrial economy, you need machinery. You want a content population, you need healthcare.
Stop looking at the phony ruble and look at Russian imports. Then ask yourself if China can fill that gap. The answer is no.
Big problems for the Russians and the Chinese can get it too.
Nothing has changed. The Russians are still dumb as ever, greedy, murderous, and sloppy.
To the point of this thread and sanctions on Russia:
The Russians can stockpile euros, rupees, yuan, whatever but the point of money is to buy things with. Currency is just an efficient means of trade, Econ 101. Without access to the western market, the Russians are going down. That German import drop of 65% hurts bad. If you want a modern industrial economy, you need machinery. You want a content population, you need healthcare.
Stop looking at the phony ruble and look at Russian imports. Then ask yourself if China can fill that gap. The answer is no.
Big problems for the Russians and the Chinese can get it too.
Yep. There are a lot WW2 stories regarding Alaska that most Americans do not even think about, mostly because they were never taught or don't care. The Japanese bombedDutch Harbor in the Aleutians. A thousand American soldiers and two thousand Japanese killed at Attu. And so on. Further conflict there was pretty much contained because the Japanese were rebuffed early on. But they had a plan.
I digressed from Russia a bit I guess.
I see what you did there in crafty Russian style.
One or two posters pointed out that Russian logistics are shit, which they are.
Then you covered for their sorry arses a bit by explaining how it is due to or partly due to the fact that Russia is a huge country. Next thing we know we are talking Vladivostock wayy the hell over in Siberia. In fact you can see Sarah Palin's house from Vladivostok.
Fine so far.
Problem is. We were talking Russia and Ukraine and logistics problems there. And relatively speaking, Ukraine is just down the road from Moscow and butts up against Russia, and they have been planning that invasion for decades and ramped it in the last few months.
Bottom line. Russian logistics suck but you earned an extra potato by providing an informative story so that is good too. I guess.
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Speaking of supply and Vladivotosk and Russia though, there was time when it was the Americans who knew that route pretty well and did actually supply Russia from the far east, like from Alaska- during WW3. The Russians were of course our allies and when their supplies got cut off by the Krauts, the American military made regular runs from Alaska across Siberia and came in the back door so to speak. Long haul there. But then again, the Americans are good at logistics.
I was actually just speaking of a plane ride I had gone on several times! But hey, if it gets me an extra potato....
I guess that would depend on your definition of "working" sanctions. If the biggest economy in the EU pushing the sanctions is...ah well, forget it. You're going to believe whatever you want no matter what, so there's no point in chatting about it.
G7 to phase out Russian oil, U.S. sanctions Gazprombank execs over Ukraine war
Germany is one of the G7 right? In Q1 2022 they reduced import of gas by 21% and still decending.
Germany agrees to ban oil and gas from Russia. What you speak about is about the situation weeks ago. We don't live in the past. So past is now irrelevant.
What I speak of? I posted what Die Welt spoke of 5 days ago. Maybe you should write a letter to the editor.
You might feel better.