The Democratic Party’s Growing Radicalism

Sounds like this article would apply to alot of the loons who frequent ET.




For those Democrats who insist their party is utterly mainstream, pragmatic rather than ideological, and right in the center of American politics, I have some news for you: You’re not.


The New York Times published a story reporting that Bernie Sanders — that would be the socialist Bernie Sanders, referred to by the Times as “the Senate’s most left-wing member” — is not only gaining momentum in Iowa, he has “been inspiring fervor among the Democratic base.” And how he has.

The Times story points to the fact the Sanders drew 700 people to an event on Thursday night in Davenport, the largest rally in the state for any single candidate this campaign season. His stop at a brewery in Ames on Saturday “was so mobbed that more than 100 people who could not fit inside peered through the windows.”

“Judging from Mr. Sanders’s trip here last week,” Trip Gabriel and Patrick Healy report, “there is real support for his message.”

Apparently so. Here’s more on-the-ground reporting from the Times:

The crowds at Mr. Sanders’s Iowa events appeared to be different from the state’s famously finicky tire-kickers. Many said they had already made up their mind to support Mr. Sanders. They applauded his calls for higher taxes on the rich to pay for 13 million public works jobs, for decisive action on climate change and for free tuition at public colleges.

“Look at all these people,” said Phyllis Viner, 68, a yoga instructor who attended his Davenport event at St. Ambrose University.

Lindsay O’Keefe, 22, who took a picture of a Sanders poster that read, “Paid for by Bernie 2016 (not the billionaires),” called Mr. Sanders “a really valuable candidate” who can “push Hillary to the left” even if he does not defeat her.

The next day, in Muscatine, Iowa, after a rally at a community college drew twice the expected audience of 50, Mr. Sanders seemed to be experiencing a contact high from the size of his crowds. He sat on a picnic table outside for a short interview.

“Be amazed at what you saw here,” he said, adding, “I want to win this.”

Be amazed indeed. Bernie Sanders — democratic socialist, 73-years-old, a man who is on the outer edges of American politics and on whose wall hangs a portrait of Eugene V. Debs, the Socialist Party presidential candidate of the early 20th century — is setting Democratic hearts aflutter. Senator Sanders won’t win the nomination, but he — along with Elizabeth Warren and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio — is stirring something deep within the souls of Democrats. They are giving voice to what many Democrats genuinely believe, what they long for, what they are desperate for: Progressivism in its most purified and unalloyed form.

Think about how the Democratic presidential race is lining up. According to theWashington Post, “Hillary Rodham Clinton is running as the most liberal Democratic presidential front-runner in decades, with positions on issues … that would, in past elections, have put her at her party’s precarious left edge.” Former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley is running to her left. And Bernie Sanders is running to his left.

And yet despite this, Democrats and liberals continue to act as if it’s Republicans and conservatives who are extreme, radical, revolutionary, on the fringe. Progressives have created an alternate reality in which they are moderate, temperate, centrist, the very model of reasonableness. They are blind to their own zeal and dogmatism, their own immoderation and intolerance.

The Democratic Party was once a great party. It may be a great party again. But for now, it is a radical party — and growing more radical by the day.
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/06/02/radical-democratic-party/
 
There was a time in this country not so long ago when doing fool things got you killed (or even worse as the quote goes :) ). Bad genes and bad ideas that produced bad judgement got removed from the pool. Now we live in a "whiffle ball universe" to borrow a quote from PJ O'Rourke. Now it is much harder to screw up so bad that you die. Bad genes and bad ideas have a much longer lease on life. In a couple generations what we consider radical left will be spoken by unelectable candidates on the right. Provided the country has not collapsed yet, that is.
 
There was a time in this country not so long ago when doing fool things got you killed (or even worse as the quote goes :) ). Bad genes and bad ideas that produced bad judgement got removed from the pool. Now we live in a "whiffle ball universe" to borrow a quote from PJ O'Rourke. Now it is much harder to screw up so bad that you die. Bad genes and bad ideas have a much longer lease on life. In a couple generations what we consider radical left will be spoken by unelectable candidates on the right. Provided the country has not collapsed yet, that is.
whiffle ball is one of the greatest of all overlooked sports. Check it out sometime. The movement on the ball is unbelievable. There is probably a league near you.
 
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I am still laughing at loyek's comment. I enjoy a good game of whiffle ball.
but on to the subject.

You know we don't have goo socialism or good capitalism. everything that could be good is destroyed by the the pre fascist cronies.

Obamacare destroyed the idea of single payer.

George Bush gave us drug company care with the govt paying full freight for drugs instead of negotiating volume discounts.

We lease out our lands and natural resources at below market rates, we have no idea how the federal reserve spread trillions and trillions of dollars all over the world... but we take income tax money from the working class...and in case they grew it into a small next egg we steal it from them when they died.

I am sure Sanders message is far more appealing than the crap we get out of the democrats or the establishment republicans. 99% of the people know that what we are getting right now is the worst of socialism and capitalism. Our politicans are wrecking the system.

So if Sanders can position himself as better... he will get a following.
 
I doubt it, but neither is Sanders.

Hillary is further left than any candidate in the last 3 decades, and she is moving even further left to try to get the nomination, the republican party always nominates liberals like George Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney.
 
Hillary is further left than any candidate in the last 3 decades, and she is moving even further left to try to get the nomination, the republican party always nominates liberals like George Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney.
Every time there's a recession you hear more about socialism, (and there's more street crime) and when the economy improves the talk fades away. Big recession this time, so lots of socialism talk, but it will still fade away. It's already fading, two years ago David Harvey was back in the spotlight, now he's back out.
 
Every time there's a recession you hear more about socialism, (and there's more street crime) and when the economy improves the talk fades away. Big recession this time, so lots of socialism talk, but it will still fade away. It's already fading, two years ago David Harvey was back in the spotlight, now he's back out.


Sadly i think your wrong, I wish you were right, but I think this time it really is different, millenials like me are witnessing the biggest wage arbitrage in history due to the internet, we no longer live in a closed system, every other country in the world is bleeding America try selling to our consumers and paying third world wages, and until it balances out, wages in the west aint going up, our standard of living will continue to decline until it matches theirs, which should be a dream come true to most progressives.

People make the mistake of thinking socialism is the answer for this, but it will only compound the problem, the real answer is trade protection because we all know that places like China, and India, and to a lesser extent Europe arent playing by the same rules, they are all quite content on destroying their currency, and at some point we will once again be forced to follow suit, or just continue to slowly bleed our lifestyle away.
 
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