The Deep State

[Banjo]

Forget the New World Order, Here’s Who Really Runs the World

http://theantimedia.org/forget-the-new-world-order-heres-who-really-runs-the-world/

Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

 

[Ricter]

13 bankers. Publish online where they live. Their pictures. Publish their daily routines. Where they eat, sleep, commute, and at what times. Study their defenses. Look for opportunities. Crowdsource a plan. Put the data in a fully normalized, scalable, relational database. Codify the principles of the process and release it as a turnkey solution. Make it an app anyone can run on their phone. Fear is the greatest motivator.

Edit: oh, wait, <whine>but they're the job creators!!!!</whine> Nm.

 

[Max E.]

13 bankers. Publish online where they live. Their pictures. Publish their daily routines. Where they eat, sleep, commute, and at what times. Study their defenses. Look for opportunities. Crowdsource a plan. Put the data in a fully normalized, scalable, relational database. Codify the principles of the process and release it as a turnkey solution. Make it an app anyone can run on their phone. Fear is the greatest motivator.

Edit: oh, wait, <whine>but they're the job creators!!!!</whine> Nm.

I dont think anyone has ever called Jamie Dimon a job creator....... the only jobs he created were those that were left cleaning up his mess, still though it sounds pretty gestapoish, right up the lefts ally to harass these people at their houses.

You really think these clowns are involved in a nefarious plot to take over the world? They cant even run a bank properly, they are just connected "good old boys" who should have fallen on their face a long time ago due to lack of performance, but its a pretty big leap to think they are involved in some nefarious scheme to take over the world.

If you really want to go after some cocksuckers, how bout going after the fuckers who are bilking people in the prop trading industry..... they are far bigger villains imo, the dirty fucks at my ex firm just walked off with 5 million dollars of depositors money, including my own, and they are most likely going to get away with it, all because of the legal way in which prop firms are set up. Its small potatoes compared to the banks but no way the banks would get away with doing what these guys just did.

 

[Ricter]

I dont think anyone has ever called Jamie Dimon a job creator....... the only jobs he created were those that were left cleaning up his mess, still though it sounds pretty gestapoish, right up the lefts ally to harass these people at their houses.

You really think these clowns are involved in a nefarious plot to take over the world? They cant even run a bank properly, they are just connected "good old boys" who should have fallen on their face a long time ago due to lack of performance, but its a pretty big leap to think they are involved in some nefarious scheme to take over the world.

I should have put quotes around "13 bankers", since it the principle of the thing I'm really getting it. It just so happens that it's the title of a book. I don't know how coordinated the plan is, or if there is a plan, none of us plebeians do, but there is definitely an organic drive at work, as there has always been and which history clearly describes. With sufficient discontent, though, you can be sure a coordinated defense will emerge. And when it does, there will be no compunction about "harassing" you in your home.

 

[Max E.]

I should have put quotes around "13 bankers", since it the principle of the thing I'm really getting it. It just so happens that it's the title of a book. I don't know how coordinated the plan is, or if there is a plan, none of us plebeians do, but there is definitely an organic drive at work, as there has always been and which history clearly describes. With sufficient discontent, though, you can be sure a coordinated defense will emerge. And when it does, there will be no compunction about "harassing" you in your home.

I have a tough time bagging on anyone in the private sector who is looking out for their self interests, its human nature, thats really all it is, though i will grant you the fact that their self interests seem to be getting more and more diametrically opposed to everyone elses.

 

[Ricter]

I have a tough time bagging on anyone who is looking out for their self interests, its human nature, thats really all it is, though i will grant you the fact that their self interests seem to be getting more and more diametrically opposed to everyone elses.

I agree, it is human nature (which is what I was getting at with "organic") But I disagree that their self-interest is getting more opposed to ours. We all continue to have that same drive--they're simply getting too powerful to compete with.

Going back to harassment... some here have argued that high taxes and massive inflation ARE the ways they are beating us down. Not hard to believe when one considers that that money goes through the same revolving doors the oligarchs do. Think of taxes and inflation (I'm being generous, I don't mostly believe it) as just first steps in a process that could, with history as a crystal ball, come to open warfare.

 

[Max E.]

I agree, it is human nature (which is what I was getting at with "organic") But I disagree that their self-interest is getting more opposed to ours. They're simply getting too powerful to oppose.

Going back to harassment... some here have argued that high taxes and massive inflation ARE the ways they are beating us down. Not hard to believe when one considers that the money goes through the same revolving doors the oligarchs do. Think of taxes and inflation (I'm being generous, I don't mostly believe it) as just first steps in a process that could, with history as a crystal ball, come to open warfare.

I guess when i say their self interest is getting more opposed to ours, im mostly thinking about wall street, ive seen them fleece people far too many times to think that their self interest matches with your every day trader.

As for the second point, if you think that taxes and inflation are first steps in a process leading to war, (Something i agree with) then why do you support taxes and inflation?

 

[Ricter]

I guess when i say their self interest is getting more opposed to ours, im mostly thinking about wall street, ive seen them fleece people far too many times to think that their self interest matches with your every day trader.

As for the second point, if you think that taxes and inflation are first steps in a process leading to war, (Something i agree with) then why do you support taxes and inflation?

I support taxes and inflation when they are in balance, when they are not excessive, when they are accomplishing what we wish them to accomplish, and no more. So I'm acknowledging that they can be excessive. But I oppose the notion of eliminating the income tax, I reject the efficacy of a flat tax, and I oppose trying to run the economy at 0% inflation. Their excess leads to war, not merely their existence.

 

[jem]

yes... finally some are catching on...

http://theantimedia.org/forget-the-new-world-order-heres-who-really-runs-the-world/

How did the deep state come to be?
Some say it is the evolutionary hybrid offspring of the military-industrial complex while others say it came into being with the Federal Reserve Act, even before the First World War. At this time, Woodrow Wilson remarked,

“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

 

[Ricter]

yes... finally some are catching on...

http://theantimedia.org/forget-the-new-world-order-heres-who-really-runs-the-world/

How did the deep state come to be?
Some say it is the evolutionary hybrid offspring of the military-industrial complex while others say it came into being with the Federal Reserve Act, even before the First World War. At this time, Woodrow Wilson remarked,

“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

Wilson's quote was published in 1913. Maybe the following, and its ramifications for power, is just a coincidence...