The Decline of the Obama Presidency

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I guess you can put me in that bucket, too. I just googled "what did Obama do right" and was flooded with lots of Left wing blogs that listed upwards of around 212 things Obama did that the writers considered "good". Most of it was hilariously inept and unsubstantial. Some that was substantial, was certainly not good in my mind.

However, I am willing to entertain something he did that was positive and I agreed with, if I could just recall it.

This is just more of the same. And since you and a few others have this mindset, you would simply pick apart anything proposed.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

This is just more of the same. And since you and a few others have this mindset, you would simply pick apart anything proposed.

Here's where you're wrong, but I cannot prove that you are. If something Obama did was right in my mind and based on what I believed (my principles), I would stand up for him on that issue despite my overall disdain with the man. I would not simply pick something apart just to pick it apart. Just as I have occasionally attacked a conservative or a republican that did not stand for the principles in which I believed.

You can believe me or not, it makes no difference to me. I know my level of integrity.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Here's where you're wrong, but I cannot prove that you are. If something Obama did was right in my mind and based on what I believed (my principles), I would stand up for him on that issue despite my overall disdain with the man. I would not simply pick something apart just to pick it apart.

You can believe me or not, it makes no difference to me. I know my level of integrity.

Anyone who believes that a man can do nothing right, or has done absolutely nothing right, is a kook. Even I don't think Reagan or Bush II were ALL bad.

 

[wjk]

Quote from Ricter:

In other words, your position also includes that Obama has done nothing right. So you remain the mirror opposite of AK (if you're correct about him), and you have anti-Obama "man wood".

You assume that is my position, yet you really don't know. It was you who concluded that I believe he has done nothing right. I didn't indicate that when I stated AK believes he can do no wrong. There is a difference (though in fairness, there are only a very few things he got right, and he fucked some of those up by bragging about them).

You did, however, successfully dodge my comment regarding responsibility. Let's try again:

Why don't you provide a list of the times Obama has taken responsibility for one of his scandals? I mean, he did say he was going to be responsible for honest, transparent government before he was ever elected.

 

[pspr]

Quote from wjk:

You assume that is my position, yet you really don't know. It was you who concluded that I believe he has done nothing right. I didn't indicate that when I stated AK believes he can do no wrong. There is a difference (though in fairness, there are only a very few things he got right, and he fucked some of those up by bragging about them).

You did, however, successfully dodge my comment regarding responsibility. Let's try again:

Why don't you provide a list of the times Obama has taken responsibility for one of his scandals? I mean, he did say he was going to be responsible for honest, transparent government before he was ever elected.

Logical talk like that will get you put on Rectum's ignore list.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from wjk:

You assume that is my position, yet you really don't know. .

You really don't know that AK believes Obama can do no wrong, either. Have you ever asked him?

 

[wjk]

Quote from Ricter:

You really don't know that AK believes Obama can do no wrong, either. Have you ever asked him?

Not possible since he's had me on ignore for months. I do read his posts, however, and his constant cheerleading is a pretty damn good indicator that he loves everything about Obama. You can't see that? Seriously?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

Anyone who believes that a man can do nothing right, or has done absolutely nothing right, is a kook. Even I don't think Reagan or Bush II were ALL bad.

You can read into it any way that makes you feel better, and label me with whatever word or term makes you happy. But no where did I say that Obama can do no right. What I said was that I cannot recall any major legislation or major decision he has made thus far that I supported. I am sure there are a few in there, perhaps minor, that I would have supported. But I do not know of them.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

You really don't know that AK believes Obama can do no wrong, either. Have you ever asked him?

I can't ask him either, because he put me on ignore a long time ago.

 

[wjk]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I can't ask him either, because he put me on ignore a long time ago.

After giving this some serious thought (for about ten seconds or so), I've concluded that there may actually be some things AK believes Obama did wrong (not sure what they are at this moment). My guess is that they would be whatever we thought he did right, ideologically speaking of course.

Hmmm, I may have just reached agreement with Ricter's earlier post, sort of.