The Declassified August 6, 2001 PDB
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didnt someone crash a cesna into the whitehouse - is it much stretch to think someone would use a 747? are not nuclear reactors built to withstand the impact of a 747? the idea of a plane as weapon should of easily been known - maybe the extent of destruction possible might not of been known.
the 3 areas that should of been addressed earlier where
1. reinforced cockpit doors
2. air marshal on every flight
3. immigration
the 3 areas that should of been addressed earlier where
1. reinforced cockpit doors
2. air marshal on every flight
3. immigration
On May 16, 2002 Rice held a press briefing; she insisted that no one could have envisioned the events of September 11. âI donât think anybody could have predicted that these peopleâ¦would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile,â Rice said.
Yet she obviously wasn't aware of a 1999 report out of the NIC, an affiliate of the CIA, warning that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden might use hijacked airplanes to crash into the Pentagon, White House, or CIA headquarters.
On May 18, 2002, the Postâs Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen challenged Riceâs statement. After quoting Riceâs remark, they outlined some previous warnings:
WOODWARD AND EGGEN:
But a 1999 report prepared for the National Intelligence Council, an affiliate of the CIA, warned that terrorists associated with bin Laden might hijack an airplane and crash it into the Pentagon, White House or CIA headquarters.
The report recounts well-known case studies of similar plots, including a 1995 plan by al Qaeda operatives to hijack and crash a dozen U.S. airliners in the South Pacific and pilot a light aircraft into Langley.
âSuicide bomber(s) belonging to al-Qaidaâs Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives (C-4 and semtex) into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or the White House,â the September 1999 report said.
Woodward and Eggen recounted case studies which they said were âwell-known.â But if these cases were well-known to some, they apparently werenât well-known to Rice.
Yet she obviously wasn't aware of a 1999 report out of the NIC, an affiliate of the CIA, warning that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden might use hijacked airplanes to crash into the Pentagon, White House, or CIA headquarters.
On May 18, 2002, the Postâs Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen challenged Riceâs statement. After quoting Riceâs remark, they outlined some previous warnings:
WOODWARD AND EGGEN:
But a 1999 report prepared for the National Intelligence Council, an affiliate of the CIA, warned that terrorists associated with bin Laden might hijack an airplane and crash it into the Pentagon, White House or CIA headquarters.
The report recounts well-known case studies of similar plots, including a 1995 plan by al Qaeda operatives to hijack and crash a dozen U.S. airliners in the South Pacific and pilot a light aircraft into Langley.
âSuicide bomber(s) belonging to al-Qaidaâs Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives (C-4 and semtex) into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or the White House,â the September 1999 report said.
Woodward and Eggen recounted case studies which they said were âwell-known.â But if these cases were well-known to some, they apparently werenât well-known to Rice.
Not to mention the WWII kamikazes. And, speaking from a 20/20 hindsight perspective, yeah of course. It's a no brainer it should have been "foreseen".
Anyway, back to reality.
It's just that idiots like you seem to forget just how shocked people in America were that, in this day and age, other human beings would actually crash a plane carrying themselves into a building for no apparent purpose other than to let us know how pissed off they are their plans for Islamic world domination aren't panning out.
So, as hapaboy asked, what do you suggest could have realistically (from a political perspective, too) been done at the time? If you're honest, I think you'd have to agree there was really no way to foresee or prevent 9.11. Sure, "go after Bin Laden" -- 'cos I mean, you guys 'just knew' he was going to do this, yup, sure. Go after Islamists worldwide (not a bad idea by half!)? And have the very same liberal slime trying to pin 9.11 on Bush crying "alarmist" and "spreading hatred" and the usual sort of sotck trash they resort to.
My post has EVERYTHING to do with the PDB from August 6th, 2001 because it speaks about attacks INSIDE THE UNITED STATES and totally refutes the opinion of Condoleezza Rice who "thought" that any terrorist attacks would be overseas.
You guys are total idiots, and obviously have not had anything more than a high school education since you are totally unable to read clearly and accurately.
You guys are total idiots, and obviously have not had anything more than a high school education since you are totally unable to read clearly and accurately.
Gee, how about the CIA handing over a "Watch List" to the FAA for one thing!
The CIA had only been tracking a couple of the 911 terrorists for years . . . they knew that Moussoui was only interested in learning about how to train for "take-offs" and not "landings". They were also aware of a tremendous amount of money coming in to his bank account that he couldn't account for. Shall I keep going?
And how difficult would it have been for the CIA and George Tenet ( who's still our CIA Director by the way ) to hand over a "Watch List" to the FAA so that they could make the Airlines aware of these guys?
Not difficult at all.
But you morons make it seem as though 911 would have been impossible to avoid in order to stick-up for the "fratboy" who spent the entire month of August 2001 in Crawford, Texas chopping wood.
The CIA had only been tracking a couple of the 911 terrorists for years . . . they knew that Moussoui was only interested in learning about how to train for "take-offs" and not "landings". They were also aware of a tremendous amount of money coming in to his bank account that he couldn't account for. Shall I keep going?
And how difficult would it have been for the CIA and George Tenet ( who's still our CIA Director by the way ) to hand over a "Watch List" to the FAA so that they could make the Airlines aware of these guys?
Not difficult at all.
But you morons make it seem as though 911 would have been impossible to avoid in order to stick-up for the "fratboy" who spent the entire month of August 2001 in Crawford, Texas chopping wood.
Waggie, let me make it as simple as possible for your kindergarten-level IQ:
This thread is about the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB. It is the title of this thread. The PDB's contents make up the first post on this thread.
It is NOT about 1999 CIA affiliates and other reports PRIOR TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TAKING OFFICE! You are aware, that Clinton was President from 1992 - 2001, aren't you?
Now, I know it's very hard for you to do, but try to comment on the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB instead of making the same posts over and over on various Chit Chat threads.
So, based on the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB, what should the President have done? Shut down all the airports based on uncorroborated threats and vague intelligence reports? Also, the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB state that 70 full field investigations into al-Qaida operatives in the US were being conducted. Wouldn't that impart to you - as out of it as you are - that these threats were being looked into?
Now, if I'm using words that you can't understand, please look them up at www.dictionary.com
p.s. Dick Clarke, your icon, stated himself that 9/11 could not have been foiled. Somehow, for some reason, you believe that your expertise exceeds his. Interesting.
This thread is about the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB. It is the title of this thread. The PDB's contents make up the first post on this thread.
It is NOT about 1999 CIA affiliates and other reports PRIOR TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TAKING OFFICE! You are aware, that Clinton was President from 1992 - 2001, aren't you?
Now, I know it's very hard for you to do, but try to comment on the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB instead of making the same posts over and over on various Chit Chat threads.
So, based on the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB, what should the President have done? Shut down all the airports based on uncorroborated threats and vague intelligence reports? Also, the contents of the declassified August 6, 2001 PDB state that 70 full field investigations into al-Qaida operatives in the US were being conducted. Wouldn't that impart to you - as out of it as you are - that these threats were being looked into?
Now, if I'm using words that you can't understand, please look them up at www.dictionary.com
p.s. Dick Clarke, your icon, stated himself that 9/11 could not have been foiled. Somehow, for some reason, you believe that your expertise exceeds his. Interesting.
Hapless boy is right.
A baseball club front man and a pro forma governor should not be expected to have made much of this report, assuming he read it.
Let's give him a hand for responding to 9/11 and sending troops to Iraq. Since Rumsfeld, Cheney and Co. wanted to invade Iraq as early as 1997, it's safe to assume 9/11 hade little to do with it.
At least he continues in the direction pointed after being wound up and released.
Happleboy, point him to a cliff and hold hands, no reason the rest of us should hold his hand too.
A baseball club front man and a pro forma governor should not be expected to have made much of this report, assuming he read it.
Let's give him a hand for responding to 9/11 and sending troops to Iraq. Since Rumsfeld, Cheney and Co. wanted to invade Iraq as early as 1997, it's safe to assume 9/11 hade little to do with it.
At least he continues in the direction pointed after being wound up and released.
Happleboy, point him to a cliff and hold hands, no reason the rest of us should hold his hand too.
wow such insight - think a little more about what happend - planes where hijacked with box cutters. it doesnt matter what they did after the hijacking - we knew hijackings could occur and have. what steps where taken to prevent hijackings? how about a cockpit door thats locked and cant be kicked in by a 12 year old kid? how about armed air marshals? Israelis have been doing this for years with good results.