The death of Microsoft

Quote from newtoet:

Actually, you are mistaken. The enterprise market as a whole has been migrating towards similar license schemes for several years now - in fact, I would say Microsoft waited longer that it had too. Most midsize and large companies will negotiate these fees, but in the end will have little to no issue paying them.

The migration is being driven by $soft and others. The alternative is whole companies and departments moving off $soft. This is happening and they are not paying the per seat support costs suggested by others to Redhat or a similar entity. It is amazing how unfamiliar some of the posters here are with the business .....
 
Quote from Bowgett:

MS will be just fine. I heard "death of Microsoft" predictions for more than 10 years now and they are still here :cool:

I am sure they will move into other business area but their core OS and database will not survive based upon the current licensing and cost structure. They will modify it under competitive pressures. Probably when that happens Ballmer will be gone .....
 
Quote from prt_systems:

The migration is being driven by $soft and others. The alternative is whole companies and departments moving off $soft. This is happening and they are not paying the per seat support costs suggested by others to Redhat or a similar entity. It is amazing how unfamiliar some of the posters here are with the business .....

lol - I have been in the business for over 12 years. You are just plain wrong.

We can meet back here in five yeras to discuss it if you want - in the meantime, if you are basing your "investments" on your hypothesis, you will go broke. You should just send me your money instead...I will put it to better use.
 
Quote from MackieMesser:

MS gets you by the balls and then they squeeze. This kind of annual licensing is costing our business ridiculous sums of money. I can't believe it...it's extortion. Got to be a better way.

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You should set up a pilot program to see if you can move some or all of your business onto Linux.

When we started these tests over two years ago we were amazed: To date we have not found anything that $soft supplies that does not have an equivalent under opensource: we have saved boatloads/bankloads of money since the conversion.
 
Quote from newtoet:

lol - I have been in the business for over 12 years. You are just plain wrong.

We can meet back here in five yeras to discuss it if you want - in the meantime, if you are basing your "investments" on your hypothesis, you will go broke. You should just send me your money instead...I will put it to better use.

You are just plain wrong. I have been in the business for 25 years - including time working for $soft.

Send me your money since you seem to want to throw it away on wasteful spending for your IT infrastructure. Obviously you dont have a corporate board to report to ..well maybe you do. You didn't work for refco did you ? LOL
 
Quote from prt_systems:

You are just plain wrong. I have been in the business for 25 years - including time working for $soft.

Send me your money since you seem to want to throw it away on wasteful spending for your IT infrastructure. Obviously you dont have a corporate board to report to ..well maybe you do. You didn't work for refco did you ? LOL

Let's see - you have racked up 400+ posts on ET in the last three months. Maybe that is why you are so out of touch with reality...you spend too much time here.

And, why was your response to me basically the same as my post to you? Obviously you lack originality as well as intelligence.

Good luck with that.
 
Quote from newtoet:

Actually, you are mistaken. The enterprise market as a whole has been migrating towards similar license schemes for several years now - in fact, I would say Microsoft waited longer that it had too. Most midsize and large companies will negotiate these fees, but in the end will have little to no issue paying them.

As a ongoing software developer i would ABSOLUTELY agree with the above... almost all of the developer market that i work with is moving toward subscription based fee structure - maybe one bene will be less forced upgrades that users have to debug for any company to get fresh cash flow... now they will have it each year from the subscription license...

Also, once it became possible to validate and authenticate any software in real time across the internet then it was only a matter of time before this became the dominant license model...

:)

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Quote from EdgeHunter:


Also, once it became possible to validate and authenticate any software in real time across the internet then it was only a matter of time before this became the dominant license model...

:)

I think you are missing the point: Linux, LAMP, and eclipse are free as are the intermediate object servers.

So, no, this is not the case - from an ongoing software developer:D
 
Quote from newtoet:

Let's see - you have racked up 400+ posts on ET in the last three months. Maybe that is why you are so out of touch with reality...you spend too much time here.

And, why was your response to me basically the same as my post to you? Obviously you lack originality as well as intelligence.

Good luck with that.

Those who cant come up with an argument often resort to such attacks....... Lt me guess: You live at your parents house and are going to junior college ? Good luck with that.
 
Quote from prt_systems:

You are just plain wrong. I have been in the business for 25 years - including time working for $soft.


Hmmm. This is revealing. It sounds like you are just someone with a grudge against their former employer.

As someone who has been in and around the software industry for years, I agree with the other posters that this is becoming a dominant way to license software. MS is doing nothing new. You may not like it, but they are following suit with other software companies.
 
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