The death of Microsoft

Quote from Agyar:

I'll disagree with you again here. :D I've been a DBA and a developer on both SQL Server and Oracle systems. Compared to Oracle, SQL Server is still garbage in my opinion. SQL Server has Oracle beat hands down as far as ease-of-use, but unlike on the desktop that doesn't matter nearly as much for a database. Data integrity, scalability, and uptime are a BIG DEAL for a database and MS still isn't there. I haven't tried SQL Server 2005 yet though, so maybe my opinion will change.

Oracle 10g running RAC on a Linux cluster is about as much fun as a database geek can have. :)

Yeah, but have you seen the cost of Oracle. Then through Oracle Spatial into the mix, man it's like a cash vacuum. :eek:
 
If Microsoft Never Existed...

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1869090,00.asp

The alarm clock goes off, buzzing insistently until I reach out a hand and groggily slap at the button to silence the sound. I roll out of bed, pause for a few minutes, then head for the shower.

After breakfast, I head down to the office. I've got several different projects in flight. The new Macintosh has arrived, sporting a new operating system revision. Apple's finally broken the silly fixed memory limit for applications, but the new OS still can't multitask worth a damn. Apple's number one market share—about fifteen percent of the PC market—make it a little complacent. Of course, it helps that Apple is unified, and that the other 85% are running a variety of different operating systems.

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Quote from science_trader:

It sounds like you have never heard of the monopolistic position of Microsoft.... Once you take that into account, all you just said is a non-sense...

People don't really have a choice. Let me take an example : how many job ads have you read were it was written : "knowledge of openoffice suite" ?


You guys seem to be arguing with yourselves. I know that MS has an OS monopoly and that people are limited in their choices. That's the whole point!


Quote from science_trader:

We have left M$ grow on its monopolistic position for too long, it is quite normal that now it takes a longer time for people to discover that other things exist...but they will...with time. We are just the first to have seen the light....and usually the ones who knew what was a computer....before M$ developed windows 3.1.

Again, that's my point! The MS monopoly will not be broken overnight. THERE IS NO CATALYST. The grassroots Linux movement will continue at its slooow adoption level until such time as that catalyst comes along. I am not so naive as to think that MS will be on top forever, but I just don't see a catalyst. The "elite" computer users have been railing about MS for YEARS, but they are still on top. Linux caters to the elite! People that just want to browse the web and check their email could not give less of a shit what their OS is. What is their incentive to change OS? 90% of users are going to keep on keeping on with MS technology. Do you know where MS focuses a ton of their money? Marketing and user testing. Linux spends very, very little on these areas just by the nature of Linux.
 
Quote from Agyar:

... user testing. :confused:
That's the main difference between Linux and M$.
Linux is continuously tested and criticized by users and developers all the world over.
The other one only by a bunch of kids somewhere on the W-Coast. The rest of the world only has to pay up & swallow.
 
Quote from Agyar:

You guys seem to be arguing with yourselves. I know that MS has an OS monopoly and that people are limited in their choices. That's the whole point!




Again, that's my point! The MS monopoly will not be broken overnight. THERE IS NO CATALYST. The grassroots Linux movement will continue at its slooow adoption level until such time as that catalyst comes along. I am not so naive as to think that MS will be on top forever, but I just don't see a catalyst. The "elite" computer users have been railing about MS for YEARS, but they are still on top. Linux caters to the elite! People that just want to browse the web and check their email could not give less of a shit what their OS is. What is their incentive to change OS? 90% of users are going to keep on keeping on with MS technology. Do you know where MS focuses a ton of their money? Marketing and user testing. Linux spends very, very little on these areas just by the nature of Linux.

And in the end, what is your conclusion ?

My point is the following :

- M$ is a limited 'OS' driving people to infantilism (who would write on a physical file 'my file' ???) and not a single company should risk developing their systems on such a piece of closed source crap (ask all the traders who have to deal with excel upgrades).

- Linux brings a decent open alternative. If you just can't manage its complexity, then just opt out for mac OSX.

- I have been here and I have told people, now if they want to keep on relying on windows for their computers, they are free to do it, but please don't come and cry later on...
 
Quote from nononsense:

That's the main difference between Linux and M$.
Linux is continuously tested and criticized by users and developers all the world over.
The other one only by a bunch of kids somewhere on the W-Coast. The rest of the world only has to pay up & swallow.

Windows is also continuously test and criticized by users and developers. The difference is that usability testing is a formal procedure by the MS development teams.

The "bunch of kids somewhere on the W-Coast" comment isn't even close to accurate by the way. Some of the smartest people I know work at Microsoft. There aren't that many people I would consider kids that work there.

I can't believe I let myself get dragged into a Linux religious war.
 
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