The cure is worse than the disease

[luisHK]

Stop making it sound like the old people are the cause behind the shutdown.Trump and the governors all across the board aren't issuing executive orders to shut down the economy just because they want to save the old people. They're doing this to protect not just the old but EVERYONE.

Sure, the youth are getting protected. Losing health, studies, career and basic personal freedom for an undefinite time so a few percent of them could be spared a cough. Pretty sure the emotional and financial impact will be huge, families destroyed, Mrs who is chinese is reading the mainland news and they report in major cities after the administrations have started working again. That more divorces than wedding are seeing aplications. So lucky they have been. How many suicides, people suffering from lack of care ( good luck finding a doctor , and dental clinics are closed, it seems the private clinc where I usually receive care is also closed.)
One is usually better off when the government is not trying to protect him ime, although it does take some independance of thought(no millenial here btw but mid 40s)
What s true though is lots and lots of people seem to be asking the governments for severe restrictions, not only the older folks.

 

[schizo]

But that's BULLSHIT, fear mongering, so very very few people younger than 70 have died without health issues, it's not worth considering, just because the few ( 5 maybe ) are being put on repeat by the media, way more than that will die from lack of food / medicines.

As said, put away the emotions and the snow flake, millions of people die every damn year in the world, shit happens, toughen up!!

You're the one who should chill out. You sound very emotional.

Anyway, WHO has issued a press release yesterday saying that even the healthy young people are very susceptible to catching the virus. This virus has been known to mutate over time. That means it has the ability to become more lethal in order to adjust to the healthy population. I think it's foolish to let your guard down and think you'll be okay because your relatively healthy.

 

[Same Lazy Element]

They're doing this to protect not just the old but EVERYONE.

Well, considering that majority of deaths are in vulnerable patients (ages of 65+ with multiple pre-existing conditions), it would sure looks this way to a lot of people. This is especially important given the perception that old people run this country and have most of the money.

What's there to argue? Everyone who is sick is already isolating themselves.

People who are vulnerable are not. I was out walking the dog today and there plenty of old people in the street.

 

[Turveyd]

Sure, the youth is getting protected. Losing health, studies, career and basic personal freedom for an undefinite time so a few percent of them could be spared a cough. Pretty sure the emotional and financial impact will be huge, families destroyed, Mrs who is chinese is reading the mainland news and they report in major cities after the administrations have started working again. That more divorces than wedding are seing aplications. So lucky they have been. How many suicides, people suffering from lack of care ( good luck finding , and dental clinics are closed, it seems the private clinc I usually receive care is also closed)
One is usually better off when the government is not trying to protect him ime, although it does take some independance of thought(no millenial here btw but mid 40s)

Had it already, not so bad 3 - 4 days, mild chest pain, 1 night of fever slept it off with a fan on me, didn't realise passed it on to 5 mates, the 16 and 11 year olds must of had it, but zero symptoms as yes, so to kids it's not a worry at all, no point closing schools.

Kids missing out on school for 3 - 18months, stuck home, suicide rate is going to suck.

Most of the people that are dying, wouldn't make it to 2021 anyway, going to change the mortality rate over the year by a very small amount.

 

[luisHK]

Sorry but your writing is very hard to comprehend. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying we should simply let the natural selection take care of this disease, ie. let the weak fall by the wayside and only allow the strong to carry on?

Nah, what Turvey is talking about was basically the policy discussed in the UK until very recently, although they seem to have backtracked on it

 

[Turveyd]

You're the one who should chill out. You sound very emotional.

Anyway, WHO has issued a press release yesterday saying that even the healthy young people are very susceptible to catching the virus. This virus has been known to mutate over time. That means it has the ability to become more lethal in order to adjust to the healthy population. I think it's foolish to let your guard down and think you'll be okay because your relatively healthy.

It could mutate into a 90% killer, so likely better off catching this strain, in the hope it'll build up some immunity for the 90% killer, but you really can't protect everyone from a very mild virus just incase something happens and it gets worse, that's so low odd and scaremongering to sell adverts that's just sick.

 

[Turveyd]

Nah, what Turvey is talking about was basically the policy discussed in the UK until very recently, although they seem to have backtracked on it

Yes, the Snowflake PC's bullied the government from Carry on Regardless, still upper lip, god save the queen, hoooraaaaaa and some will die live with it, to bleeding heart OMG, lets just close down the entire country and hide under our pillows, that'll sort it.

It could also turn into a bannana and become completely harmless unless slipped on like in cartoons, but it's unlikely, so until it does, it hasn't, got that logic right ??

 

[schizo]

Sure, the youth are getting protected. Losing health, studies, career and basic personal freedom for an undefinite time so a few percent of them could be spared a cough. Pretty sure the emotional and financial impact will be huge, families destroyed, Mrs who is chinese is reading the mainland news and they report in major cities after the administrations have started working again. That more divorces than wedding are seing aplications. So lucky they have been. How many suicides, people suffering from lack of care ( good luck finding , and dental clinics are closed, it seems the private clinc I usually receive care is also closed)
One is usually better off when the government is not trying to protect him ime, although it does take some independance of thought(no millenial here btw but mid 40s)
What s true though is lots and lots of people seem to be asking the governments for severe restrictions, not only the older folks.

I'm in my 50s and I've never experienced anything like this before. Have you?

You don't know the severity of this virus. Nor do you know what the outcome is in, say, 6 months or 1 year from now. Even if we ultimately allow the old to expire, that alone does not guarantee the virus would stop spreading. It's only natural for the government to do everything in their power, no matter how inconvenient, to stamp out the virus and I believe they are on the right course.

 

[schizo]

ut you really can't protect everyone from a very mild virus

Mild virus? This thing is 200% more infectious than flu virus. Even though the lethal payload might be low at the moment, that can also change over time. If you've read anything about the Spanish Flu, you would know that there were 3 waves of onslaught. It got more lethal over time with successive waves and the third wave claimed the most lives. With the corona, we're only at the beginning stage. We don't know how far this will go, nor do we know what it can morph into.

 

[Turveyd]

I'm in my 50s and I've never experienced anything like this before. Have you?

You don't know the severity of this virus. Nor do you know what the outcome is in, say, 6 months or 1 year from now. Even if we ultimately allow the old to expire, that alone does not guarantee the virus would stop spreading. It's only natural for the government to do everything in their power, no matter how inconvenient, to stamp out the virus and I believe they are on the right course.

Nobody has, last pandemic, 1918 spanish flu so nobody alive has, don't ask stupid questions.

We know the severity of the virus very well, we've got 3months worth of data on it.

The Virus is in the wild, you can slow it down make it infect everyone over a longer period of time, but that's it, you will have it, it likely won't be worse than a mild cold, you need to stop and control your level of fear.

You can't stamp out the virus, well WW3 with Nukes would work, but tad extreme.