This part is worrisome. I of course don't understand the technical details like you do, but I always figured that if I buy 0.1 BTC at an exchange, no BTC actually changes hands yet. Perhaps these exchanges match up the buys and sells, and also use what they have in storage and allocate a little to me. In a way, they take a risk because they could be selling BTC they don't have, until they have to go in and buy a big block once they run out.
But this of course opens up a huge issue as you point out. Its that the banks having to sell huge chunks of shares when that hedge fund imploded last month because of margin calls. So once the exchange sees the price dropping, and customers selling, they too are forced to sell actual BTC so as not to be stuck with too much inventory that nobody wants.
Is this how it actually works? When I read snippets that say that miners are hardly selling, I'm left wondering where all the BTC is coming from that people are buying at exchanges? But if the exchange already has enough in storage to sell to the little guys, then it could very well be a wild show. At least at the CME, my ES or NQ contracts go right to the market. So are these crypto exchanges just bucket shops?
Yeah no. Full stop. You don't know half the things you think you know.
Exchanges are constantly in need of BTC/inventory, exchanges/their MM algos are some of biggest bids in the market. They always want to buy BTC.
Exchanges aren't the ones directly dumping, it's miners/whales through the exchange. Exchanges lowers their public bids after absorbing the impact OTC. Nobody dumps in open market.
Retail buys at exchange -> exchange buys from miners/whales. Exchanges push price up in order to get the scarce asset from the holders.
You need to do a lot more research, the fact you bring in CME, a futures exchange, into this discussion shows your knowledge level.
I never said I was an expert. But my CAME example stands. When I buy a contract, I'm buying it in the market and I own it and it had to be sent to the market, not internalized. With BTC, it sounds like I don't actually own it until I cash out into cold storage. So I hope the exchange will give me my share if I want it. Imagine an instantenous price spike to 100k, and all of a sudden, everyone at the exchange wants to go into cold storage. Will the exchange have enough BTC to transfer out to everyone or are they having it buy it from the miners. This is my point.Yeah no. Full stop. You don't know half the things you think you know.
Exchanges are constantly in need of BTC/inventory, exchanges/their MM algos are some of biggest bids in the market. They always want to buy BTC.
Exchanges aren't the ones directly dumping, it's miners/whales through the exchange. Exchanges lowers their public bids after absorbing the impact OTC. Nobody dumps in open market.
Retail buys at exchange -> exchange buys from miners/whales. Exchanges push price up in order to get the scarce asset from the holders.
You need to do a lot more research, the fact you bring in CME, a futures exchange, into this discussion shows your knowledge level.
I never said I was an expert. But my CAME example stands. When I buy a contract, I'm buying it in the market and I own it and it had to be sent to the market, not internalized. With BTC, it sounds like I don't actually own it until I cash out into cold storage. So I hope the exchange will give me my share if I want it. Imagine an instantenous price spike to 100k, and all of a sudden, everyone at the exchange wants to go into cold storage. Will the exchange have enough BTC to transfer out to everyone or are they having it buy it from the miners. This is my point.
If the exchange doesnt have enough BTC to pay withdrawers, it means the got hacked and they will suspend withdraws. That's what happened with Mt Gox and a number of others. Or its a ponzi and they wont pay. Could be a scam too, I have some coins stuck on HitBTC because its a scam exchange that doesnt pay people using the 'more KYC' excuse, you can send them your DNA and they will ask for more. In any event, most large exchanges do have the BTC to pay and they pay people daily. They buy it from the markets if they are short of itI never said I was an expert. But my CAME example stands. When I buy a contract, I'm buying it in the market and I own it and it had to be sent to the market, not internalized. With BTC, it sounds like I don't actually own it until I cash out into cold storage. So I hope the exchange will give me my share if I want it. Imagine an instantenous price spike to 100k, and all of a sudden, everyone at the exchange wants to go into cold storage. Will the exchange have enough BTC to transfer out to everyone or are they having it buy it from the miners. This is my point.
You're obviously not understanding what I'm saying. By being decentralized, yes, no one person has the final say, but what you need is the minimum number of nodes to agree. So in a way, there is only one authority. That is my point. You only have a coin once the network agrees you have a coin. With the CME, its of course easy because only they have to say you have a contract and they don't need to check with anyone else. But with the crypto exchange, you only have a coin once you cash out into cold storage. That is my point and I'm sure we are saying the same thing.There is no central clearing for BTC/crypto and there should never be, and at this point in the discussion I would hope you know that. Otherwise it's back to basics for you. Start with googling decentralized.
Fink calls Crypto a 'great asset class' then says that its only a minor part of the conversation with institutions like Sovereign Wealth Funds, Pension funds, Retirement services and large family offices. This is great, because when these folks start to jump in, it will likely be the time to sell.
They are burecratic, dumb and slow. If they start to buy crypto it means prices have risen so much, and the stories are so widespread even the idiots are coming in.
So they are likely to be a good top indicator at some point in the future