The Crippling Price of Public Employee Unions

[377OHMS]

Quote from MKTrader:

On the other hand, if you don’t mind working until your last breath so a middle-school band teacher can retire at 48, it might not bother you!

Ouch.

 

[psytrade]

In places like Canada, there are so many Gov't workers that they design the Voting campaigns around having those Gov't workers vote for them....

Kinda like drinking where you're pissing, imo...

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from psytrade:

In places like Canada, there are so many Gov't workers that they design the Voting campaigns around having those Gov't workers vote for them....

Kinda like drinking where you're pissing, imo...

Same here.

Leftists and Democraps pander to (1) those not paying Federal Income Tax, (2) Black and Hispanic minorities, (3) Unions, (4) Government employees. Get those groups voting for government to "give them more money and benefits", it doesn't matter how the rest vote.

 

[1prometheus]

if you have not figured it out yet, this is how the system is increasingly going to look:

Democrats: Blacks, Browns, elite minorities like Jews (very unfortunately), and Government unions

Republicans: White European Americans who until not to long ago where 90% of the population.

The basic dynamic is this: The Democratic coalition works to use government to rob favors, transfer payments, affirmative action, and defense for their favorite foreign nation from White European Americans.

The lever they use is name-calling like "racism" similar. The public schools and media have trained us to recoil in horror and immediately become subservient/obedient when we are called such names, and they are counting on this continuing to work in the future.

Whites, on the other hand, will increasingly be either waking up to reality, or continuing to lose a defensive battle. Guys, THIS is the true nature of multi-cultural societies. Each group forms a pressure group and tries to rob the others. The Elites LIED to us and the majority was dumb enough to believe it, once again.

The dems and obama know very well the game is, "browns against whites" but repubs are Scared to death of acknowledging this fact. PubliK school brainwashing has proven VERY effective!!
Euro-American equals second class citizen. That is the new future we face. Don't believe me? Well, I have seen the corporate quotas, it is FACT.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Some people get it, that's obvious from the great comments in this thread.

 

[tomdavis]

California is bankrupt thanks to the unions. The unfunded liability for California public employee retirement benefits now exceeds one half trillion dollars.

Quote from Tom B:

The Crippling Price of Public Employee Unions

By Mortimer B. Zuckerman
Posted May 14, 2010

The American public feels it is drowning in red ink. It is dismayed and even outraged at the burgeoning national deficits, unbalanced state and local budgets, and accounting that often masks the extent of indebtedness. There is a mounting sense that taxpayers are being taken for an expensive ride by public sector unions. The extraordinary benefits the unions have secured for their members are going to be harder and harder to pay.

The political backlash has energized the Tea Party activists, put incumbents at risk in both parties, and already elected fiscal conservatives such as Republican Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey. Over the next fiscal year, the states are looking at deficits approaching hundreds of billions of dollars. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal think tank, estimates that this coming year alone states will face an aggregate shortfall of $180 billion. In some states the budget gap is more than 30 percent. The result is a crowding out of the state role as the supporter of adequate infrastructure, education, and healthcare.

How did we get into such a mess? States have always had to cope with volatility in the size and composition of their populations. Now we have shrinking tax bases caused by recession and extra costs imposed on states to pay for Medicaid in the federal healthcare program. The straw (well, more like an iron beam) that breaks the camel's back is the unfunded portions of state pension plans, healthcare, and other retirement benefits promised to public sector employees at a time when federal government assistance to states is falling—down by roughly half in the next fiscal year beginning Oct. 1.

It is galling for private sector workers to see so many public sector workers thriving because of the power their unions exercise. Take California. Investigative journalist Steve Malanga point out in the City Journal that California's schoolteachers are the nation's highest paid; its prison guards can make six-figure salaries; many state workers retire at 55 with pensions that are higher than the base pay they got most of their working lives. All this when California endures an unemployment rate steeper than the nation's. It will get worse. There's an exodus of firms that want to escape California's high taxes, stifling regulations, and recurring budget crises. When Cisco's CEO, John Chambers, says he will not build any more facilities in California, you know the state is in trouble.

The business community and a growing portion of the public now understand the dynamics that discriminate against the private sector. The public sector unions organize voting campaigns for politicians who, on election, repay their benefactors by approving salaries and benefits for the public sector, irrespective of whether they are sustainable. And what is happening with California is happening in slower motion in the rest of the country. It must be one of the reasons the Pew Research Center this year reported that support for labor unions generally has plummeted "amid growing public skepticism about unions' power and purpose."

There has been a transformation in the nature of our employment. Labor is no longer dominated by private sector industrial workers who were in large part culturally conservative and economically pro-growth. Over recent decades public sector employment has exploded and public workers have come to dominate the labor movement. These public sector employees have a unique and powerful advantage in contract negotiations. Quite simply it is their capacity to deliver political endorsements and votes for the very people who are theoretically on the other side of the negotiating table. Candidates who want to appear tough on crime will look to cops, sheriffs' deputies, prison guards, and highway patrol officers for their endorsement.

These unions will naturally back a candidate willing to support better pay and benefits for their members, and this means as much as, or more than, the candidate's views on law enforcement. The result has been soaring pay and the ability of state police and other safety officers to retire with pensions that place an increasingly unbearable financial burden on the states. In California, such retirees at age 50 often receive pensions at 90 percent of their pay; comparable retirees in most other states get about half their final working salary.

In New York, public service employees have received gold-plated perks for much of the 20th century, especially generous health insurance benefits. Indeed, where once salaries were lower in the public sector, the salary gaps in the public and private sectors have disappeared in the last two decades, or even reversed for most job categories. A Citizens Budget Commission report in 2005 showed that for most job categories in the greater New York City region, public sector workers received higher hourly wages than private sector workers. And according to a 2009 survey by the same group, this doesn't even count the money that New York City pays in full premiums for comprehensive health insurance policies for workers and their families. Only 8 percent of workers in private firms enjoy that subsidy. Moreover, in virtually all cases, the city also pays the full healthcare premium costs for retirees and their spouses. And the city pensions are "defined benefit" plans, which are more expensive since they guarantee specific benefits on retirement.

On the other hand, private sector workers in the survey were mostly in "defined contribution" plans, which means that, unlike their cushioned brethren in the public sector, they do not have a pre-determined benefit at retirement. If New York City were to require its current workers to pay contributions toward health insurance equal to the amounts paid by the employees of local private sector firms, the taxpayer savings would approximate $628 million a year. In New Jersey, Christie says government employee health benefits are 41 percent more expensive than those of the average Fortune 500 company.

What we suffer is a ruinously expensive collaboration between elected officials and unionized state and local workers, purchased with taxpayer money. "Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours." No wonder the Service Employees International Union has become the nation's fastest-growing union: It represents government and healthcare workers. Half of its 700,000 California members are government employees. More and more, it wins not on the picket line but at the negotiating table, where it backs up traditional strong-arming with political power. It spends vast amounts of money on initiatives that keep the government growing—and the gravy flowing. Similarly, for the teachers unions—with the result that California and its various municipalities, especially Los Angeles, face budget shortfalls in the hundred of millions of dollars. California can no longer rely on a strong economy to support this munificence. Its unemployment rate runs about several points higher than the national rate and its high-tech companies are choosing to expand elsewhere. Why stay in a state with such higher taxes and a cumbersome regulatory environment?

California is a horrible warning for the nation of how dreams can turn to dust. In most states, politicians face a contracting local economy and shortfalls in tax receipts. Naturally, they look to cut expenses but run into obstruction from politically powerful unions that represent state and local government employees, teachers, and healthcare workers who have themselves caused pension and healthcare insurance costs to soar. It is not an accident that in framing the national stimulus program, Congress directed a stunning percentage of the $787 billion to support public service employees.

The lopsided subsidies for pension and health costs are a large part of the fiscal crises at the state and local levels. The subsequent squeeze on education and infrastructure investment is undermining the very programs that have made it possible for our economy to grow—thousands upon thousands of teachers let go, schools closed, mass transit slashed.

Between New York and California, the projected deficits run about $40 billion—and that doesn't account for projected billions of dollars in the operating deficits in the states' mass transit systems or the multibillion-dollar unfunded liability in many of the state pension plans. New York is badly hit because it is being deprived of tax revenues by the government's indiscriminate attack on the securities industry, which has been so critical to the economy of New York State and to the United States.

City government was developed to serve its citizens. Today the citizenry is working in large part to serve the government. It is always hard to shrink government spending. It is particularly difficult when public sector unions have such a unique lever of pressure.

We have to escape this cycle or it will crush us. One way is to take labor negotiations out of the hands of vulnerable legislators and assign them to independent commissions. They would have a better shot at achieving a fair balance between appropriate salary increases and the revenues and services of local municipalities. The electorate won't swallow any more red ink.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opin...rippling-price-of-public-employee-unions.html

 

[nutmeg]

Does anyone think Public Employee Unions could be doing a better job and consequently retain these middle class jobs?

If we kill off the public employee unions there goes a large chunk of middle class. Who needs that?

These are good paying jobs although too political in some cases.

 

[burn8]

If the public sector jobs actually do disappear someday. All of those people will have an opportunity to actually go create something instead of just pulling from a strained system.

-burn8

 

[Angrycat]

Quote from nutmeg:

Does anyone think Public Employee Unions could be doing a better job and consequently retain these middle class jobs?

If we kill off the public employee unions there goes a large chunk of middle class. Who needs that?

These are good paying jobs although too political in some cases.

Who needs that? If the "middle class" is comprised of leeches, then it needs to be killed.

Leeches eventually kill the host. Have a good look at Greece.

 

[1prometheus]

Hate to say it but wage arbitrage has killed the middle class in the private sector, just as offshoring factories and mexican immigration has killed the lower-middle to lower classes. Unless we get an america first econ policy the only option for the middle class will in fact soon be government employment. The Financial bubbles/real estate bubbles have been the only thing giving holding the middle class together in the private sector, but that illusion is fast being destroyed.