Gross back in 2005 talking about low financial asset returns
"Our own Paul McCulley, even before he rejoined PIMCO in 1999, made the amazingly simplistic but powerful distinction between disinflationâs journey and its destination. The journey, he suggested, had phenomenal strength much like that of the universeâs âelectromagneticâ force. As inflation sunk to near zero (and real interest rates with it) the price investors would be willing to pay for future income should expand, since it would be âdiscountedâ at lower and lower real rates. âStock P/Es and bond prices, therefore, should go up,â he said and, of course, they did. Once they reached their destination, however, the power would weaken as the multiple expansion based on the journey would reach its finale. Once disinflation or its real interest rate companion reached its âdestination,â much like a spaceship approaching the speed of light, the investment world would begin to change. No longer would the stock marketâs form take the shape of this sleek, lengthy cone-shaped vehicle able to generate double digit returns. But instead, its âmassâ and future returns would compress into something resembling current real interest rates and expected future inflation, a number that today is close to five percent. Elegant. Like Einstein and other scientists have known for centuries, the simplest equation explaining a phenomena is often the best."
Junk bonds are yielding 10%(duration 3.9y)
IG bonds are yielding 5%(4.6y duration)
SPY 1.83% plus buybacks(Not sure what the adjusted yield is but I bet its not much above 2.5%)
USTs 3.3% for 10y
Junk bonds are looking pretty overvalued. Expected inflation is in the range of 2.1% for the next 10 years. It does seem that future US financial asset returns will be low