The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

tsznecki said:
Ken, you have supporters with you on this against misinformation, but paying to get rid of the other side?

I mean one can make a case that you are just are ridiculous as @Turveyd so be careful here.
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Presuming your english not great, where you from?

He's only threatening to quit the site as he's a payed sponsor of the site, calm if I'm not banned.
 
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jem said:
Hey Ken...

Lets put that IQ to work. And consider the trade... consider the magnitude of the risk and the outcomes.

Facts to consider:

Data:

95% of people in ICU had co morbidity (per CDC study posted this week...here)
Age is a massive factor in ICU and death per ever study but it was not counted as
a risk factor above... so skew those results to the very old.

Far more people have been infected and exposed than the % positives we saw.
For instance 66% of India tested positive for Covid antibodies and since not everyone tests positive for antibodies... we may conclude almost everyone in India out and about was exposed.

I would bet the same holds true for the U.S. but more were vaccinated.
From the limited data released we have seen 3x to 5x as many people were exposed to the original waves.

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Immune System Mitigation of Risk

96 percent in ICU had vitamin D deficiency per CDC study shared here in the past.
Recent studies show sufficient D may prevent infection and severe symptoms.
Natural immunity 13 fold better than vaccine immunity and 7 fold better at
protecting from Severe Covid... pre this weeks study.


Consistent exercise also may help prevent symptoms.

Really anything that would prevent your immune system from going into a Cytokine storm
is probably going to be very beneficial at reducing your risk of Covid problems.


Societal Risks

1. People with vaccination can still spread virus.
2. High risk vaccinated may be fertile breeding grounds for more deadly virus.
3. High unvaccinated may also be... but it would be based on laws of nature.
4. Spread Happens mostly in not entirely from the symptomatic... if you look at the studies
the ones claiming otherwise are guesses by experts or models... if they really had proof
there would be contact tracing proof. (this could have changed during Delta... but I never saw the headlines...saying so.)
5. Cloth masks and Surgical mask only work at 12% efficiency or less... while clean. Masks did not protect spread... because few work useful masks properly. maybe in in a few thousand had a properly fitted clean n95.


Individual assessments...

And let's say your last cold was 20 years ago, and you work out everyday. You go to beach lot and started water sports again.
And family members already had covid.... and you knew from talking to ER docs in the middle of it... that they knew that it took about 15 minutes exposure to a very symptomatic person during the first wave to get sick. (in general) so you did very little to protect yourself almost happy to be hit with low doses for short periods of time.

You really going to risk all that for a temporary spike in your antibodies...which may hook you into needing boosters for life and the potential for a screw up causing ADE?

What is your conclusion... you think I shoud risk all the potential downsides for what I deem very slight almost zero risk of ICU?


My Conclusion...

I respect your decision making...for you...especially if you may have a compromised immune system...but I know the high risk vaccinated are potentially a bigger risk during a pandemic than the low risk.

But, Please keep your moral judgements suspended until we have a few years worth of data.
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Nice but they just ignore anything that isn't fear!
 
KCalhoun said:
When it comes to public health and safety I want to do the right thing. I can't in good conscience remain a sponsor of any place where dangerous covid deniers are welcome to post potentially harmful misinformation.

I am certain other sponsors feel the same. Is an exodus pending.

See terms of service updates at all major social media sites.

Baron, and all, read:

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/covid-19

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/12/coronavirus/

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

COVID-19 medical misinformation policy

https://feeds.aarp.org/health/condi...cks-coronavirus-misinformation.html?_amp=true
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No specific medical advice has been given, you can do what you want, but if you destroy the human race out of fear then that's on your head.
 
There's a reason that Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have content restrictions around user-generated covid content and misinformation.

It's called liability protection. And common sense. Do you disagree with them, too?

Please read carefully, they explain it

read:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

Then read it again

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en


COVID-19 medical misinformation policy

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/covid-19

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/12/coronavirus/

https://feeds.aarp.org/health/condi...cks-coronavirus-misinformation.html?_amp=true
 
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KCalhoun said:
There's a reason that Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have content restrictions around user-generated covid content and misinformation.

It's called liability protection. And common sense. Do you disagree with them, too?

Please read carefully, they explain it

read:

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/covid-19

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/12/coronavirus/

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

COVID-19 medical misinformation policy

https://feeds.aarp.org/health/condi...cks-coronavirus-misinformation.html?_amp=true
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Yes reason they want everyone to take the death jab and hide all of the adverse reactions and deaths.

Hide all of the ever double jabbed deaths.

This is a genocide and your on the wrong side!
 
KCalhoun said:
There's a reason that Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have content restrictions around user-generated covid content and misinformation.

It's called liability protection. And common sense. Do you disagree with them, too?

Please read carefully, they explain it

read:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

Then read it again

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en


COVID-19 medical misinformation policy

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/covid-19

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/12/coronavirus/

https://feeds.aarp.org/health/condi...cks-coronavirus-misinformation.html?_amp=true
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So you agree with censoring text messages to keep the truth hidden? Free speach?


Uk deaths up 10xs for August despite 85% jabbed still think jabs are good.


Although Delta so actually Flu deaths madness.
 
A handful of rich billionaires work in concert to establish their own view on the World at large -they use corporations.If you disagree with their agenda you will be denied service provided by these corporations.
 
KCalhoun said:
There's a reason that Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have content restrictions around user-generated covid content and misinformation.

It's called liability protection. And common sense. Do you disagree with them, too?

Please read carefully, they explain it

read:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

Then read it again

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en


COVID-19 medical misinformation policy

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/covid-19

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/12/coronavirus/

https://feeds.aarp.org/health/condi...cks-coronavirus-misinformation.html?_amp=true
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“Liability protection?”. Sounds like a justification for suppressing free speech. Who determines what is misleading information? Pharmaceutical companies who spend billions of dollars in lobbying, advertising, and their extensive social media presence? Are pharmaceutical companies more about health or profits? The AMA and US based pharmaceuticals have been very effective at protecting against foreign competition, including in some cases, superior foreign products. How would you characterize mandatory health insurance, aka the forced purchase of a product?

May I respectfully suggest you take the time to look at the issues with more depth before getting on board with mandated vaccines, require health insurance purchases, and censorship.
 
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