Not to worry. Between his vast experience and all of the capable politicians in the Democratic party, we'll be back on track in the first 6 months. If not...remember "Bush's fault" during the Obama years? You ain't seen nothing yet!
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Not to worry. Between his vast experience and all of the capable politicians in the Democratic party, we'll be back on track in the first 6 months. If not...remember "Bush's fault" during the Obama years? You ain't seen nothing yet!
Oh after Trump blaming Obama for everything, even lying about it, Trump will get his blame repeatedly.
It is only fair.
It is only fair.
I'm sure he got that from Obama. Remember all the stuff that was Bush's fault?
I don't recall - but I'm sure Bush blamed Clinton, though he was a lot quieter about his predecessor.
Bush took office when the economy was going great and there was a budget surplus. Not sure what Bush could complain about with Clinton nor would dems have blamed him for anything until after 9/11 when Iraq became a budget drain.
Obama took office with a major recession and housing crisis. Not Bush's fault but I found it funny that GOP were still blaming Obama the first 2 years when he inherited a shit show so I can see why he would point to Bush for members of his party to blame rather than stupidly blaming the President who was handed the mess and had to wait up to 2 years before his plans/budgets could take effect anyway.
Trump was handed a growing economy and falling unemployment. Obama's doing? Well Trump seemed to blame Obama for only things that were wrong and took all the credit for an economy handed to him as though his mere presence created something that was already trending for many years. So what the hell was Trump blaming Obama for?
If Trump wants to take credit fo the economy he had nothing to with then he can take the blame for the unemployment he had nothing to do with.
presidents do not get to pick and choose what they can take credit or blame for. Trump has not stopped blaming Obama and we are in our 3rd full year already. When does he accept blame while still taking credit for doing nothing?
Whatever. All eight years of Obama we heard about how Bush was the problem. All 4 years of Trump we heard about how Obama was the problem. Really that's all there is to it. You can tease out whatever position you want to support your own belief structure. I really don't care.
Viet Cong were brave too....so were Kamikaze pilots who bombed Pearl Harbor....where are their statues to honor all the Americans they killed?
Taliban were brave..imagine blowing yourself up to kill women and children. Maybe Trump should change teh White House to the Bin Laden Wing.
Doesn't your facility have limits on internet time?
The whole "tear down statues" and "get rid of the confederate flag" or remove racist symbols is a fucking stupid movement anyway. It is driven by shortsighted, bad strategy idiots that don't think things through. Yeah, I'm talking about you folks on the left. Let's examine why:
Forget about the 1st amendment and Freedom of Speech. Take it out of the equation. I support your right (or anyone's right) to declare themselves whatever they want by waving whatever flag or symbol they want. Want to wave a Confederate flag? Go right ahead. Want to wave a Nazi flag? Go right ahead. Before you string me up to be a racist (which I'm sure you will invariably do anyway because ALL you want is your pound of flesh), consider what I am about to say.
Lets take the Nazi flag as it is probably one of the most - if not THE most - despicable symbol you could wave in public or support. What happens if you tell people they can't wave the Nazi flag or support it? Think it through, lemmings. If you remove their ability to demonstrate what they support, do you magically think their support for the movement vanishes? Do they suddenly go "Gee, what I'm doing is bad, I need to stop and change my point of view."?
Of course they don't. They immediately go underground and drum up support outside of your prying eyes. Outside the system. Online. They move to the darkest parts of the world where your Light of Justice doesn't shine, and that is where they grow and feed and corrupt and pollute.
Instead, let them proudly stand up and identify to all that they support a symbol that is almost universally loathed. Then you can mark them. Then you can prevent them from working in your companies, dating your children, joining your running group or workout team. You can make them pay for the choices they have made and you can choke their movement because they have done all the work for you identifying who they are for all the world to see. Know thy enemy. Never leave an enemy stronghold behind your lines.
But no. Lets ban them all and they'll vanish.
Bunch of morons.
Forget about the 1st amendment and Freedom of Speech. Take it out of the equation. I support your right (or anyone's right) to declare themselves whatever they want by waving whatever flag or symbol they want. Want to wave a Confederate flag? Go right ahead. Want to wave a Nazi flag? Go right ahead. Before you string me up to be a racist (which I'm sure you will invariably do anyway because ALL you want is your pound of flesh), consider what I am about to say.
Lets take the Nazi flag as it is probably one of the most - if not THE most - despicable symbol you could wave in public or support. What happens if you tell people they can't wave the Nazi flag or support it? Think it through, lemmings. If you remove their ability to demonstrate what they support, do you magically think their support for the movement vanishes? Do they suddenly go "Gee, what I'm doing is bad, I need to stop and change my point of view."?
Of course they don't. They immediately go underground and drum up support outside of your prying eyes. Outside the system. Online. They move to the darkest parts of the world where your Light of Justice doesn't shine, and that is where they grow and feed and corrupt and pollute.
Instead, let them proudly stand up and identify to all that they support a symbol that is almost universally loathed. Then you can mark them. Then you can prevent them from working in your companies, dating your children, joining your running group or workout team. You can make them pay for the choices they have made and you can choke their movement because they have done all the work for you identifying who they are for all the world to see. Know thy enemy. Never leave an enemy stronghold behind your lines.
But no. Lets ban them all and they'll vanish.
Bunch of morons.
there is one major flaw in your argument.....
Banning the Nazi flag is good because of what it represents and you shoudl not have the right to fly that flag that brings so much pain and hatred to many people and represents horrible events from the past.
The idea that banning the Nazi flag will not get rid of Nazism is ridiculous, because there is still a great interest in NOT letting people put those flags up on their houses or businesses or walk down the street waving it. The law is not stupid to think we get rid of it by banning it. The law is to say, this shit is not allowed to be displayed freely and comfortable. You should have to hide your support for this symbol because you are not wanted as part of this society if you see nothing wrong with casually holding up a Nazi flag.
Here is another equivalency... I should be able to walk along with your female family member and call her a slut or a whore anytime I want all day. why ban it? I will just go and talk about her in private, isn't it better that I get to scream it at her all day long out in the open and mark myself?
You think people willing to fly the Nazi flag are ashamed or embarrassed to do so and care that they might be embarrassed? Their behavior should be prohibited becuase it is hate speech and serves only hate. No one is flying the Nazi flag to show their support for the homeless or peace and love.
Maybe Trump should stop defending dead Confederate soldiers and start defending living American soldiers...