The Bull Is Back wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from traderpro:

I agree. this was a short covering rally.

Thats what they said on October 2002. A 20 point rally in the spooz is no small matter, especially when we're close to support level.
 
Quote from ByLoSellHi:

Oil has sustained technical damage, and could easily drop $20 to $30 in a week.

Watch the rush to the exits if it drops again tomorrow.

Pain for the late comers.

Time to book profits for those long all along.

some long term systems liquidated positions based on last two days signals in various markets.
 
And the markets told me the fifth wave from the rally went flat at the penny trying to test yesterday's last arm.

Cover your longs. I'm telling ya.

Quote from ProfitTakgFool:

I'm long the YM and holding but here's the thing....you might be right or I might be right but that's not the point. Investing and trading is all about listening to the market, taking a position based on what it is telling you, then managing risk. Today, like a few days last week, the market told me to go long, take a partial, and put in a stop. So far that strategy has yet to get me in where I can leave the runner on a walk away but -- and this is what seperates the men from the boys -- I'm profitable on all of my positions even though I was dead wrong about the bottom being in. I may be wrong again today but I'm long the YM from 11211 and holding. My stop sits a few ticks above break even.

I really don't give a rats ass whether I'm right or wrong. All I want to do is see a green number. Do we rally into tomorrow? I think we do be we shall see.
 
Boy, I remember October 2002. I was pretty green back then and boy did I argue with the market. I think that was the last time I argued with the market because I got flattened. I remember going short MLMN and some other stock and they both went down 10% after I triggered. I walked away from the market with no stop -- that's right, no stop. I was convinced the market was heading much lower. Long story short, I came back to both stocks being up about 10%. I argued and argued and argued with the market until my broker took me out. I vowed never to make that mistake again. Not only did I get crunched because I was short....I also missed huge profits because I wasn't long and it all happened because I refused to listen to what the market was telling me. I was convinced it was "just short covering." Boy, do I remember 2002.

Quote from stock_trad3r:

Thats what they said on October 2002. A 20 point rally in the spooz is no small matter, especially when we're close to support level.
 
Quote from stock_trad3r:

LOL oil is not dropping another $20

there is no catalyst for that to happen
There is no place for "NO it can't happen" in the market.
 
Quote from stock_trad3r:

Thats what they said on October 2002. A 20 point rally in the spooz is no small matter, especially when we're close to support level.


This could lead to a nice move up no question. But todays buying was short covering. If we see continued buying then i would believe the bull is back
 
No question this was 'running the stops', just like yesterday's open.
Action in TWM was unreal at the close - down over 7% or so for the day. I wouldn't be surprised if there was even a nice 1% discount to NAV added with that price action. Too lazy to compute it myself, but wouldn't be surprised. Nice entry opportunity if you got closed out the other day (like I did).

Tough to trade with stops in this market.
 
Quote from ProfitTakgFool:

The past two late-day rallies have been more short covering than actual buying. Today was NOT a short sqeeze -- it was bonafide, sustained buying. The past couple days have been "buy at any price -- just get me out." Today was planned and orderly buying, which is indicative on institutional buying. No one knows for sure if the market has bottomed but the past few days have been EXACTLY how bottoms are formed. All you can do is put on your longs and manage risk. From there just let the market do what it's going to do. Long is the place to be, jmho.

How can u say today was not a short squeeze ? Look at the way price rocketted up. Look at the way price moved. This was more indicative of stops getting slapped rather than controlled buying.

If this was planned and orderly buying where were the controlled pullbacks ? How come both higher highs looked like tops ? That doesnt seem like orderly buying to me. I could be wrong though.
 
There's no way to be sure but today had a different "feel" to it. The other 2 days there felt like there was panic buying. Today just didn't feel like that but who knows.

Check out the candle on the Russell when you get a chance. It looks a lot like the bottoms from earlier in the year, especially the first bounce off the lows in March. No way to know if this is "thee" bottom but it should be a tradable bottom at the least.

Quote from wiesman02:

How can u say today was not a short squeeze ? Look at the way price rocketted up. Look at the way price moved. This was more indicative of stops getting slapped rather than controlled buying.

If this was planned and orderly buying where were the controlled pullbacks ? How come both higher highs looked like tops ? That doesnt seem like orderly buying to me. I could be wrong though.
 
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