the bottom 40% of Americans paid negative 9.1% income taxes

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I have little time for pols moaning about income inequality or economic justice or other marxist concepts.

However, we have a growing problem, perhaps crisis is a better term, in this country in compensation at the high end of the scale. CEO compensation has been an obscene blight on our system for years....


Disagree. I don't see "CEO compensation as a crisis" in any form. If the CEO makes outrageous bank, it's only hurting shareholders... who can "vote with their feet" and sell the stock. Yes, the CEO could take less and pay lowest-paid employees more... but the world ain't all that altruistic.

Outrageous compensation to public employees... paid for by taxpayers... is another kettle of fish entirely.
 
Quote from Ricter:

You're wound too tight, Tsing. We have a progressive tax system, that's the point. As for "average", you told us all about that when we were talking turkey prices, lol.

You mean Bloomberg told us all about that. And it remains accurate, despite random supermarket advertisements you posted. Hell, your own article quoted the same Bloomberg data.

Not my issue if you put anecdotal info about financial data.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

"I have little time for pols moaning about income inequality or economic justice or other marxist concepts.

"However, we have a growing problem, perhaps crisis is a better term, in this country in compensation at the high end of the scale. CEO compensation has been an obscene blight on our system for years...."

Why is this a problem but income inequality (which this is evidence of) is not a problem?
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

You mean Bloomberg told us all about that. And it remains accurate, despite random supermarket advertisements you posted. Hell, your own article quoted the same Bloomberg data.

Not my issue if you put anecdotal info about financial data.
Sounds to me like you don't know how to shop. But millions do, and for them your statement "discounts are irrelevant" is false.

By the way, turkey at the supermarket near you is $0.98 a pound today (half the price in your alarmist Thanksgiving inflation thread). If you're family is one of those who has turkey for Christmas I suggest you buy it now. That will leave plenty of time for you to thaw and cook it. ; )
 
Quote from Ricter:

Sounds to me like you don't know how to shop. But millions do, and for them your statement "discounts are irrelevant" is false.

By the way, turkey at the supermarket near you is $0.98 a pound today (half the price in your alarmist Thanksgiving inflation thread). If you're family is one of those who has turkey for Christmas I suggest you buy it now. That will leave plenty of time for you to thaw and cook it. ; )

Discounts are irrelevant. You obviously have no idea how prices work at the supermarket level. Allow me to educate you (again).

Suppliers/manufacturers sell products to the account (Grocery/Convenience/Mass/Drug) at list price. List price is usually given nationally, based on things like full truck pricing, or half truck pricing, etc. Pretty standard. After the price list, suppliers/merchandisers offer trade discounts. An example of this would be how Publix in the south offers BOGOs (buy one get one) or "Buy 10 for $10" (meaning the discounted price is $1). In these cases, these merch events are paid for by the manufacturer - they can come Off Invoice or billed back, but the result is the same and they do indeed lower prices, but they are unique to the chain in which they are offered (Kroger, Safeway, etc). If you were to do an average US price on something, you would stop at this price and include these discounts.

Sometimes, particularly around holidays or big promotions (like Shop-Rite's "Can Can" event in the NE) retailers will margin down (meaning they lower their price without manufacturer $$). They do things like "Buy 10 of these products and get $3 back" or gas rewards. These events cannot be calculated into an average US price because there's no real way to say how much of the $3 (in that one example, for instance) goes towards the price of any one item.

You were including these merch events in your random internet advertisement shopping, and that's nice. Good deals there. But that isn't indicative of the national average price to all consumers, of which Bloomberg has access to in it's data. This, incidentally, is what I do for a living. I manage the pricing and trade for all of our accounts across class of trade, so I know what I'm talking about.

So again, who to believe? Ricter or Bloomberg. I think that's easy for everyone on this forum to decide. Turkey prices now, of course, would be discounted heavily. Thanksgiving is over, and Christmas dinner is about ham.

Lastly, I'd be careful on that whole "you're/your" thing. You seem to do that a lot lately. Remember, "your" implies possession, whereas "you're" is "you are" contracted.
 
it's a cheap shot to nail somebody on your vs you're, and also there vs their vs they're

this is the internet, not an English class

I use to talk to a guy on the internet that was an Electrical Engineering professor at Stanford, and he couldn't hit them right to save his soul

somehow his brain just skipped that part of English Class in School

I'm kind of an ee cummings guy when it comes to the internet

sometimes I like inventing it as I go
 
Quote from kid.fx.cross:

it's a cheap shot to nail somebody on your vs you're, and also there vs their vs they're

this is the internet, not an English class

I use to talk to a guy on the internet that was an Electrical Engineering professor at Stanford, and he couldn't hit them right to save his soul

somehow his brain just skipped that part of English Class in School

I'm kind of an ee cummings guy when it comes to the internet

sometimes I like inventing it as I go

I don't nail just anyone on it, only those who profess themselves to be smarter than the average bear, and try to come off as intellectuals. Futurecurrents grammar ranks somewhere between Spider Monkey and third copy of chromosome 21, but I let his transgressions go all the time. Spelling errors occur, and no one gives a shit about punctuation, of course. But repeated grammar errors are slightly disturbing. Especially from the self-professed intelligentsia.
 
Quote from kid.fx.cross:

it's a cheap shot to nail somebody on your vs you're, and also there vs their vs they're

this is the internet, not an English class

I use to talk to a guy on the internet that was an Electrical Engineering professor at Stanford, and he couldn't hit them right to save his soul

somehow his brain just skipped that part of English Class in School

I'm kind of an ee cummings guy when it comes to the internet

sometimes I like inventing it as I go
He's takes any angle he can get. Lately, since his choices are few, it's been mostly ad hominem attacks and grammar policing.
 
Quote from Ricter:

He's takes any angle he can get. Lately, since his choices are few, it's been mostly ad hominem attacks and grammar policing.

And educating folks like yourself in how the world works. Don't forget that one...
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Discounts are irrelevant. You obviously have no idea how prices work at the supermarket level. Allow me to educate you (again).

Suppliers/manufacturers sell products to the account (Grocery/Convenience/Mass/Drug) at list price.
Yawn. Turkey is cheaper right now. As it is every year cheaper now than it is in September. Adapt and stop shopping stupid.

Grab a coupon too, if you like, millions do.
 
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