the bottom 40% of Americans paid negative 9.1% income taxes

Quote from Ricter:

Who said they have no income?

So, in your example, the two kids have income, do they? You know what, Ricter, you just argue for the sake of arguing. That's all you do.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

So, in your example, the two kids have income, do they? You know what, Ricter, you just argue for the sake of arguing. That's all you do.
I'm not hear to make friends. And if you don't like arguing here's one thing you can do: stop responding to my replies to other people.

Anyway, one kid has a paper route, the other kid gets an allowance, and mom works part-time temping. Would it be fair that they all pay 25% of the grocery bill? (Assuming they all eat 25% of the food each. : ))
 
Quote from Ricter:

I'm not hear to make friends. And if you don't like arguing here's one thing you can do: stop responding to my replies to other people.

Anyway, one kid has a paper route, the other kid gets an allowance, and mom works part-time temping. Would it be fair that they all pay 25% of the grocery bill? (Assuming they all eat 25% of the food each. : ))

No, it would be fair to say they all pay whatever flat rate on their income. That's the whole point behind a flat, fair tax. So if little Johnny had a paper route and made $25 per week, he'd pay 20% on that - $5. Dad would pay 20% on his $50,000 a year salary - $10,000. Dad would still pay a hell of a lot more, just fairly. Has nothing to do with how much they consume.

As for you not being "hear" to make friends, you do a good job of it (not making friends). One thing you're actually good at. I don't mind arguing topics, but not for the sake of just having an argument. That would make me a troll like you.

For instance, you don't see me arguing shit like the fact that an allowance or paper route isn't taxable. That's what I'd do if I were just picking a fight - much like you.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

No, it would be fair to say they all pay whatever flat rate on their income. That's the whole point behind a flat, fair tax. So if little Johnny had a paper route and made $25 per week, he'd pay 20% on that - $5. Dad would pay 20% on his $50,000 a year salary - $10,000. Dad would still pay a hell of a lot more, just fairly. Has nothing to do with how much they consume.

As for you not being "hear" to make friends, you do a good job of it (not making friends). One thing you're actually good at. I don't mind arguing topics, but not for the sake of just having an argument. That would make me a troll like you.

For instance, you don't see me arguing shit like the fact that an allowance or paper route isn't taxable. That's what I'd do if I were just picking a fight - much like you.
Perhaps I'm not getting at my point directly enough, which is of course "marginal utility". It is not fair to take 20% of income from a poor family whose income less expenses leave them with squat, and take an "equal" rate from a wealthy family. And if the solution to that is an exemption or subsidy for incomes "below x", then you have created at least a two tier tax system.

Couldn't care less about what everyone thinks, that's part of your friend-making goal.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Perhaps I'm not getting at my point directly enough, which is of course "marginal utility". It is not fair to take 20% of income from a poor family whose income less expenses leave them with squat, and take an "equal" rate from a wealthy family. And if the solution to that is an exemption or subsidy for incomes "below x", then you have created at least a two tier tax system.

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Just because you say it's not fair, then it's not fair? A fair tax taxes everyone equally, and that's what makes it fair. Equality. It's what you folks on the left (minus yourself) have been pushing forever for. If the concern is for the poor and their meager income, then you do other things like give them tax breaks on food and clothing. Day care subsidies. Rent subsidies. Food stamps, etc. I'm not saying fair tax and then nothing else.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

No, it would be fair to say they all pay whatever flat rate on their income. That's the whole point behind a flat, fair tax. So if little Johnny had a paper route and made $25 per week, he'd pay 20% on that - $5. Dad would pay 20% on his $50,000 a year salary - $10,000. Dad would still pay a hell of a lot more, just fairly. Has nothing to do with how much they consume.

As for you not being "hear" to make friends, you do a good job of it (not making friends). One thing you're actually good at. I don't mind arguing topics, but not for the sake of just having an argument. That would make me a troll like you.

For instance, you don't see me arguing shit like the fact that an allowance or paper route isn't taxable. That's what I'd do if I were just picking a fight - much like you.

Why do you guys bother to suffer the rantings of Ricter? He obviously has the grey matter of a Grape Nut.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Why do you guys bother to suffer the rantings of Ricter? He obviously has the grey matter of a Grape Nut.

For me, it's like trying to constantly get the retarded kid on the court to move without double dribbling. I'm hoping one day he'll pull it off and I'll be like "there you go!"
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

For me, it's like trying to constantly get the retarded kid on the court to move without double dribbling. I'm hoping one day he'll pull it off and I'll be like "there you go!"
So quit your crying while you're hoping: stick to the topic or stfu. : )
 
Quote from Ricter:

So quit your crying while you're hoping: stick to the topic or stfu. : )

We are on topic. I noticed you did not address my last post re: fair taxes. Could it be that you're double dribbling again?
 
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