The Border Crisis on Steroids

[TreeFrogTrader]

Then they transport them all across the country.

Yup. But the other thing I see happening is that some of these places are like the cell phone parking areas at many airports. Where you park and wait for your arriving family or buddies to arrive and then they arrive and you pull up and pick them up.

Biden crows about reducing the number of people in custody but he accomplishes that by just telling them to come in and keep moving. Your contacts can pick you up and take you to New Haven or Peoria or we will deliver you there.

It's bullfeathers. All of it.

 

[Cuddles]

In truth you cannot prove that they, illegal aliens with Covid, are not the primary driver. They may or may not be primary, but they do absolutely contribute to the spike.

From this we can reasonably conclude that illegal aliens have and will continue to drive up the numbers of Covid cases. The only debate is how much of that number they are responsible for, and that debate is based on opinion more than fact whichever side you take. Indisputable. My opinion, they are the primary driver. Prove me wrong with indisputable facts from honest sources, of which there are few, if any. Then we would know for sure that illegal aliens are playing a minimal role in the spike, if any role at all. Until then, I'm putting it on them.

It's fairly simple really. If you take the per capita positivity rate for mexico:

apply a 3x fudge factor:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...toll-estimated-600000-new-study-finds-rcna869

and

compare it to the USA's (we'll be generous and assume we're not underreporting lolz):

you end up with:

1.3M active cases vs America's 6M active cases, and 66k/1M positivity vs 110k/1M.

So in reality, immigrants are making our per capita numbers better, not worse.

Enjoy your "brown man bad" scapegoating.

 

[ph1l]

What is the data you are relying on for your opinion that migrants are causing the spikes all around the country and why under Trump when people were still crossing illegally you had no issue with migrants spread COVID?

Suddenly you woke up from your sleep and found magic data that said migrants are the cause for the spikes in all these states. You must have data if it is indisputable which means no one can challenge it.

Were migrants having spring break parties maskless without social distancing in Florida or holding packed outdoor concerts? Please enlighten me?

If I wrote an opinion that migrants are causing the spikes, I was wrong. But of course I wrote "contributing to the spread" (and presented evidence) which is not pronounced "causing the spikes" in human language (maybe it is in grumpy cat language).

 

[Wallet]

If I wrote an opinion that migrants are causing the spikes, I was wrong. But of course I wrote "contributing to the spread" (and presented evidence) which is not pronounced "causing the spikes" in human language (maybe it is in grumpy cat language).

How would anyone actually know the percentage of covid-positive illegal aliens crossing our border, the one’s that slip through undetected or the ones just let in, untested and shipped off to who knows where in the US.

 

[Cuddles]

How would anyone actually know the percentage of covid-positive illegal aliens crossing our border, the one’s that slip through undetected or the ones just let in, untested and shipped off to who knows where in the US.

Seeing how they're trekking outside, well aware of a pandemic and doing so w/some sort of mouth covering, forcing themselves to physical exertion, I'd imagine many symptomatic don't make it too far. There's no telling to what happens once cooped up en masse in our detention centers though.

In any case, blaming Delta spread on border immigrants remains asinine. The Mexico, Peru, or even Brazil variants, sure.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global

 

[CaptainObvious]

How would anyone actually know the percentage of covid-positive illegal aliens crossing our border, the one’s that slip through undetected or the ones just let in, untested and shipped off to who knows where in the US.

They don't know, they're speculating. It's okay for the to speculate and pass it off as fact. Don't you do it or you're racist and a conspiracy theorist. So they speculate a million illegal aliens a month are of no consequence to Covid spikes, increase in drug overdoses, increase in crime, or anything else. I speculate that they contribute in a major way to all of the above. Of course my speculation is based on logic and common sense, theirs on denial of anything which doesn't fit the leftist narrative.

 

[Cuddles]

They don't know, they're speculating. It's okay for the to speculate and pass it off as fact. Don't you do it or you're racist and a conspiracy theorist. So they speculate a million illegal aliens a month are of no consequence to Covid spikes, increase in drug overdoses, increase in crime, or anything else. I speculate that they contribute in a major way to all of the above. Of course my speculation is based on logic and common sense, theirs on denial of anything which doesn't fit the leftist narrative.

fact: Undocumented immigrants have far lower criminality than gen pop:

https://www.policefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Appendix-D_0.pdf
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/51/32340
https://news.wisc.edu/undocumented-immigrants-far-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-in-u-s-than-citizens/

fact: Drug use among undocumented immigrants lowest:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...o-be-arrested-for-drugs-alcohol-idUSKBN1AO2EC
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211337/

fact: No evidence undocumented immigrants are significantly impacting COVID numbers:

https://apnews.com/article/public-h...-immigration-74eba36e8cd2f842987c0e6e57bcfae1

 

[El OchoCinco]

How would anyone actually know the percentage of covid-positive illegal aliens crossing our border, the one’s that slip through undetected or the ones just let in, untested and shipped off to who knows where in the US.

So you are saying it is not an indisputable fact because no one can say for certain...that was my whole point...

 

[CaptainObvious]

fact: Undocumented immigrants have far lower criminality than gen pop:

https://www.policefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Appendix-D_0.pdf
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/51/32340
https://news.wisc.edu/undocumented-immigrants-far-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-in-u-s-than-citizens/

fact: Drug use among undocumented immigrants lowest:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...o-be-arrested-for-drugs-alcohol-idUSKBN1AO2EC
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211337/

fact: No evidence undocumented immigrants are significantly impacting COVID numbers:

https://apnews.com/article/public-h...-immigration-74eba36e8cd2f842987c0e6e57bcfae1

Fact: all your sources are dated and unreliable.
Fact: Criminal illegals selling drugs are causing the rise in overdoses
Fact: Millions of illegals pouring over the border, tens of thousands Covid positive at the exact same time case counts go up is a direct link between them and the spike in cases.
Fact: thinking otherwise is delusional.

 

[Cuddles]

Fact: all your sources are dated and unreliable.
Fact: Criminal illegals selling drugs are causing the rise in overdoses
Fact: Millions of illegals pouring over the border, tens of thousands Covid positive at the exact same time case counts go up is a direct link between them and the spike in cases.
Fact: thinking otherwise is delusional.

Fact: you post no sources for your delusions
Fact: you don't know what a fact is