The biggest most notorious liar known to man

I never said it was peer reviewed - so you obviously did not read the posts.

This is a joke right?

Quoting your post

"The peer-reviewed study by two scientists and a veteran statistician looked at the global average temperature datasets (GAST) which are used by climate alarmists to argue that recent years have been “the hottest evah” and that the warming of the last 120 years has been dramatic and unprecedented."

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...bal-warming-is-fabricated-study-finds.311099/
 
This is a joke right?

Quoting your post

"The peer-reviewed study by two scientists and a veteran statistician looked at the global average temperature datasets (GAST) which are used by climate alarmists to argue that recent years have been “the hottest evah” and that the warming of the last 120 years has been dramatic and unprecedented."

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...bal-warming-is-fabricated-study-finds.311099/

I was quoting the text of the article. Here is the article - http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ent-global-warming-is-fabricated-study-finds/

That is merely the first paragraph of the article. Do you want me to take the text of every article that you post and claim the text is something that you personally asserted? Let's play this game -- it will be a lot of fun. Because some of the assertions made in the articles you post are just asinine.

Once again - I never asserted that the paper was peer-reviewed and published in a scientific journal.
 
I was quoting the text of the article. Here is the article - http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ent-global-warming-is-fabricated-study-finds/

That is merely the first paragraph of the article. Do you want me to take the text of every article that you post and claim the text is something that you personally asserted? Let's play this game -- it will be a lot of fun. Because some of the assertions made in the articles you post are just asinine.

Once again - I never asserted that the paper was peer-reviewed and published in a scientific journal.

You were quoting because you AGREED with the article, you weren't disputing it.

You made a NEW thread quoting that it was peer reviewed, one of the very first lines was a line but only 'some of the assertions' were wrong?

You are responsible for what you post, there is no point evading responsibility.
 
You were quoting because you AGREED with the article, you weren't disputing it.

You made a NEW thread quoting that it was peer reviewed, one of the very first lines was a line but only 'some of the assertions' were wrong?

You are responsible for what you post, there is no point evading responsibility.

Is your claim that you agree with every single line in every single article you post? We are going to have a lot of fun with this, eh?

I post some of text at the start of an article to politely provide some context for the reader. They can decide if they want to click the link and read the entire article after seeing some basic information about it. Don't misrepresent being a courteous article poster (where I provide more than just the link) with being a representation of my personal opinion.
 
Is your claim that you agree with every single line in every single article you post? We are going to have a lot of fun with this, eh?

I post some of text at the start of an article to politely provide some context for the reader. They can decide if they want to click the link and read the entire article after seeing some basic information about it. Don't misrepresent being a courteous article poster (where I provide more than just the link) with being a representation of my personal opinion.

I don't quote articles and start thread about them if I don't agree with the TITLE and the opening paragraph.

To say that the title, the intent and the opening lines were 'EVERY SINGLE LINE' is extremely disingenuous.

The whole basis of that article was wrong since there was no such study but you want to pretend you only agreed with other parts which of course weren't verified either? Right.
 
I think this will be the case at least before the current century has ended. I have made comparisons between the devotion (this is the best word to describe it) to Hansen's hypothesis with a similar devotion to Lysenko's hypothesis in the Soviet Union and the belief in Eugenics in the Western Nations in the twentieth century. There is something going on with climate, there always is. Evidence against CO2 as the main cause, however, is building in the peer reviewed literature. And the often repeated untruth that there is 90%+ agreement on climate change is of course completely incorrect. Those actually working in and publishing in that area are quite divided in opinion, and the other opinions don't matter. I am a strong advocate for the Paris Climate Accord and for the development of alternative energy sources, but I believe CO2 as a significant driver of climate change has been rather thoroughly disproven at this point. I am in the Salby camp. I think he is correct in saying that Temperature is the independent variable and CO2 the dependent variable. That's consistent with both T-CO2 correlation and the phase relationship, whereas CO2 as the independent variable is consistent with correlation only; not with the phase data. There is a anthro contribution to atmospheric CO2, no question about that, but the half life assumed by the IPCC is at least one order too great. We now know the half life fairly accurately, and the initial guesses were way off. The fundamental problem is that all of these dire predictions have come from admittedly quite defective models of climate. I am a scientist, but not a climate scientist. I have learned through many years of personal experience that one should be extremely wary of jumping to conclusions when dealing with complex phenomena. The media and opinion poles are not a useful means of answering scientific questions.


No such thing as Hansen's hypothesis. It's called the greenhouse effect. CO2 is the main thing controlling earth's temps.

Unitil you can disprove the physical properties of CO2 you are wasting your breath.

How are things at the think tank?

And the consensus is actually above 99%.

No publishing climate scientist denies man made global warming. None.

All these facts make your bullshit look pretty silly.

Salby? LOL. He's a fool. But the libertarian pro-fossil fuel think tanks love him.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/Murry-Salby-CO2-rise-natural.htm
 
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Salby thinks that this is natural.

Piehole says...... "I am in the Salby camp. I think he is correct in saying that Temperature is the independent variable and CO2 the dependent variable."

yeah right

1000-years-of-carbon-emissions.gif
 
If you compare this to the Bill and Monica situation -- it is very different. With Bill and Monica there was a clear record of dates/times she visited the White House. There was an entire staff that was concerned with their close interactions and trying to actively keep them apart. There was physical evidence on a blue dress. Very different than the allegations made in the Trump lawsuit in terms of level of evidence.

It is funny that back in the days of Kennedy if a "Monica" type of situation became public - it would be laughed off ("boys will be boys") and the public would not care. The reality back in JFK times was that there were well-known scandals that were politely ignored by the press and population.

Move forward to the Clinton times - when the Monica thing came out they tried to impeach him. For something that would have been ignored in the 1960s.

Now move forward to today - if something came out similar about Trump, he would furiously tweet about it and blame the intern. Congress would do nothing -- and America would spend weeks debating it along partisan lines in a manner ignoring the facts.

What a strange world we have arrived at...
Indeed, scandalous misbehavior is one thing, crime is another. Both political parties would be well advised not to make too much of the former, and to dismiss charges of the latter until and unless there is substantial, verifiable evidence. We are surrounded by innuendo and intentional disinformation. We have to be constantly on our toes not to be taken in by it.

It certainly is fun to speculate however!
 
Salby thinks that this is natural.

Piehole says...... "I am in the Salby camp. I think he is correct in saying that Temperature is the independent variable and CO2 the dependent variable."

yeah right

1000-years-of-carbon-emissions.gif
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems I have seen that graph somewhere before. :D
 
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