The Biden COVID vaccine

gwb-trading said:
'Complete incompetence': Biden officials fume after Trump leaves them 'nonexistent' vaccine plan
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-response/

Officials in the Biden administration say they will have to build their own COVID-19 vaccine distribution plan because the Trump administration never bothered to create one.

CNN reports that Biden officials were shocked to learn that former President Donald Trump and his team never bothered to develop a plan for distributing the vaccine for the novel coronavirus.

"There is nothing for us to rework," said one official. "We are going to have to build everything from scratch."

"Wow, just further affirmation of complete incompetence," said another source.

During his last weeks in office, Trump was almost singularly focused on overturning the results of the 2020 presidential election, and in the rare instances where he would talk about vaccine distribution, he said it was up to state governments to get the job done.

White House COVID coordinator Jeff Zients said on Wednesday that the new administration will make it a priority to coordinate vaccine distribution at the federal level.

"For almost a year now, Americans could not look to the federal government for any strategy, let alone a comprehensive approach to respond to COVID," Zients said, "and we've seen the tragic costs of that failure. As President Biden steps into office today... that'll change tomorrow."
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Should we believe CNN with their unnamed sources? Or maybe believe the CDC?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
Vaccine Distribution

What is being done to distribute COVID-19 vaccines?

The federal government oversees a centralized system to order, distribute, and track COVID-19 vaccines. All vaccines are ordered through CDC. Vaccination providers receive vaccines from CDC’s centralized distributor or directly from a vaccine manufacturer.

Two vaccines are authorized and recommended to prevent COVID-19 in the United States. Other COVID-19 vaccine candidates are in development, and clinical trials are being conducted at the same time as large-scale manufacturing.

The implementation of COVID-19 vaccine distribution involved detailed planning focusing on every step of the process including:

  • Establishing and testing logistical plans with manufacturers and commercial partners that are part of CDC’s centralized COVID-19 vaccine delivery system
  • Coordinating the distribution of vaccines and needed supplies from centralized locations
  • Developing processes for ordering additional doses of the vaccine after the first supply has been shipped
  • Receiving, storing, and handling vaccines properly at very specific temperatures
  • Deciding who should receive a vaccine first, based on national recommendations, if there are not enough doses of the vaccine for everyone
  • Giving the vaccines safely during an ongoing pandemic
  • Reporting on vaccine inventory, administration, and safety using a variety of new and enhanced data systems
  • Expanding safety surveillance through new systems and additional information sources, as well as scaling up existing safety monitoring systems
  • Developing plans to assess vaccine effectiveness, which means how well the vaccines protect against COVID-19 under real-life conditions
  • Making sure the public, healthcare providers, state and local health departments and others receive timely, credible, clear communication about all aspects of the vaccination program
A safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine is a critical component of the U.S. strategy to reduce COVID-19-related illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths. The U.S. government’s goal is to have enough COVID-19 vaccine doses for all people in the United States who choose to be vaccinated.

Who has CDC worked with to plan for the distribution of COVID-19 vaccines?

State, tribal, territorial, and local jurisdictions: CDC worked with state, tribal, territorial, and local jurisdictions on the development of COVID-19 vaccination plans for their respective areas. CDC released a playbook on September 16, 2020, to provide specific information to consider during vaccination plan development. The playbook is updated periodically to provide jurisdictions with the latest information.

Private partners and federal agencies: CDC has worked with private partners, such as chains and networks of independent pharmacies, and other federal agencies (e.g., the Indian Health Service) on plans for wider distribution of COVID-19 vaccines. For example, CDC is working with pharmacies to offer on-site COVID-19 vaccination services for residents in long-term care settings, such skilled nursing facilities, nursing homes, and assisted living facilities, where most residents are over 65 years of age
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What extreme liberal ET trolls do not mention is Democrat run states have the slowest rollout and distribution of vaccines. Now, each state's allotments have been given out and just sitting in freezers in their states. The state Governors decide who gets it and how much. Governor De Santis of Florida has the fastest rollout with more people vaccinated who are high risk. A New York official went to Florida just so, he can get vaccinated. Top Democrat legends Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo are moving at a snail's pace distributing their vaccines while, thousands of their states residents die. Good job guys, ET trolls like to tell us how good of a job you are doing compared to President Donald Trump's efforts on the Corona Virus. Nothing like gross incompetence and negligence on Democrat governors. Yeah, that will save lives indeed.
 
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userque said:
I believe they are talking about two different things (just saw in interview on DVR'd BBC News).

Biden is talking about a plan to distribute within the States.

Trump only shipped the vaccines to the states, along with funds so that the States can do their own distribution.
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The States were required to formalize and submit their own distribution plans. Trump just got the vaccines to the States. Biden apparently wants to step in and assist the States.

CNN’s headline was disingenuous. But that’s how they report.
 
Ricter said:
What metrics do we have access to, measuring the efficacy of the vaccine rollout?
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It would be nice to know the turnover time from ready to ship to into people’s arms. I don’t think there will be too much info available publicly about the manufacturing process though.
 
Wallet said:
The States were required to formalize and submit their own distribution plans. Trump just got the vaccines to the States. Biden apparently wants to step in and assist the States.

CNN’s headline was disingenuous. But that’s how they report.
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I believe it was a case of Biden using the word "plan" to include the states. It's obvious that the vaccine was being distributed, somewhat. Which is what Fauci was referring to, and why he answered the way he did. He wasn't speaking about a plan to distribute within the states.

As I've repeated before: they were talking about two different things.
 
userque said:
I believe they are talking about two different things (just saw in interview on DVR'd BBC News).

Biden is talking about a plan to distribute within the States.

Trump only shipped the vaccines to the states, along with funds so that the States can do their own distribution.
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If that's the case, it shouldn't surprise anybody because "CDC worked with state, tribal, territorial, and local jurisdictions on the development of COVID-19 vaccination plans for their respective areas."
 
ph1l said:
If that's the case, it shouldn't surprise anybody because "CDC worked with state, tribal, territorial, and local jurisdictions on the development of COVID-19 vaccination plans for their respective areas."
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It boils down to a judgment call.

Pandemics are the jurisdiction of the Federal government, as they can affect the whole country. So the leader has to ask and answer for himself, 'Should I trust that the states are competent enough to handle the distribution?"

If the leader chooses to trust the states, and they fuck it up, well, like any leader, of any organization; they bear that responsibility.

Note: I don't know if the States fucked up distribution; or if they weren't given enough vaccine.

I do know that Trump said they had vaccines in reserve ... and that was a classical Trump Administration lie. So I suspect that the states weren't given enough vaccine as being the problem.
 
As I 'splained earlier today, every state had to submit their distribution plan to the CDC and every state's plan is available online.

The deadline was last November 1.

Joe says that there has been no plan and been no work with the states. Of course he has made sure that he did no work to find out what had been done.

As one of the pundits said, "Joe Biden has plagiarized his entire career. In law school, from British MP speechs, etc. etc. so it is to be expected that Biden will just take a lot of Trump work and spin it a little and put his name on it. That comes easy to Joe. Everything within him and in his background makes that type of scuzzy and scammy stuff easy for him.

Today Joe announced the great idea that he was going to talk with and contract with private pharmacy chains to do vaccinations. Gee, I wonder where he got that idea. Oh, I see Trump had the CEO's of Walgreens and CVS to the white house for a joint show and tell about how they were running the vaccine injections for seniors and would also be involved in the next steps. Joe may legitimately know nothing. I don't know. He is so far gone, I would not venture to guess when he is being purposely deceitful versus just lost in space. He is both a crooked son of a bitch and an idiot so it hard to tell which is the greater motivator for him.



Trump officials see surge in signs ups for free CVS, Walgreens Covid vaccine program for seniors
PUBLISHED WED, NOV 18 20202:25 PM ESTUPDATED WED, NOV 18 20204:53 PM EST
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/sta...bmit-covid-19-vaccine-distribution-plans.html

States face Friday deadline from CDC to submit plans to distribute coronavirus vaccine
PUBLISHED FRI, OCT 16 202010:17 AM EDTUPDATED FRI, OCT 16 20204:26 PM EDT
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/sta...bmit-covid-19-vaccine-distribution-plans.html
 
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