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You Lie, again.
I posted TST combine results the performance of which blew away your own combine results using your silly "price drivers".
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You failed to pass the combine. why not admit that?

I never once heard you claim that you are a succesful full time trader using TA price action alone. Last i heard you piloted a jet for a few wealthy people. next time one of my clients invites me to Nantucket/ wherever on a private jet, i will make sure the pilot isn't posting on et when he should be flying! LOL

surf:D
 
what is your value added here?

Quote from sheda:

Yea you were better off sticking with what you know, a lot of programmers around here show them selves unable to manually trade for shit.
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Quote from CalVolibrator:

as I expected, money talks bullshit walks. I did not ask for pnl or blotters, I asked real-time entries and exits. If your TA gurus already put up tons of crap over dozens of pages they could as well post entries and exits like others have done. I just find it curious that there are many threads of posters who called entries and exits net-profitably in real-time on non-TA based methodologies, yet I find not a single one where someone could say the same about him/herself on the basis of fibs, moving averages, RSI, and what other crap there is.

So, stop kidding yourself and others. Yes, we know it does exit, just because something does not work for you does not mean it won't work for anyone else, right?

To 98% this site is losers' anonymous that much is at least sure.
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Pls re-read line 1 of my post re. calls.

My point is that not everyone who is profitable is going to bother with posting real-time calls. Why should they, because others do and like high school kids they need to fit in?

Why do you assume that because some want to make calls, others should or else they are fakes, poseurs, whatever?

As for TA gurus, I don't have any. I'm happy to learn from anyone and everyone even if I do not trade the way they do. If something seems interesting, I'll examine it, test it out and see if there is anything there I can incorporate in my system. If there is, good, if not I just move on.

I read every single page of the ACD thread, I skipped every single call. I was only interested in the ideas in that thread.
 
I am not egotistical enough to "value" my posts. The only value a posting can have is its impact upon another and if just one newbie in the world looks at you fund fanatics telling them they can never make it, that's value enough for me.

If you know your stuff with programming then great spread the knowledge, being knowledgeable in one area does not make you an expert in another.

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what is your value added here?
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Quote from justrading:

Pls re-read line 1 of my post re. calls.

My point is that not everyone who is profitable is going to bother with posting real-time calls. Why should they, because others do and like high school kids they need to fit in?

Why do you assume that because some want to make calls, others should or else they are fakes, poseurs, whatever?

As for TA gurus, I don't have any. I'm happy to learn from anyone and everyone even if I do not trade the way they do. If something seems interesting, I'll examine it, test it out and see if there is anything there I can incorporate in my system. If there is, good, if not I just move on.

I read every single page of the ACD thread, I skipped every single call. I was only interested in the ideas in that thread.
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I agree, however the prolfic posters here that claim success in TA/PA strict useage--- post here often, that throws your argument out the window. If they make claims they need to post the calls or they are making it up.

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

What do you mean by `fruitless``? I knew no one and nothing when I started-- and via pure desire and tenacity have forged a career in the financial markets-- not to mention operating a succesful real estate marketing company from 1990 to 2005 and only having to answer to a cubicle boss for 3 years out of school.

Try 20 years-- I am not that old, yet! -- but I am twice the age of my bride.



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sorry, i stand corrected

i meant "fruitless" in comparison.

ps: my wife is younger than me..but only 3 yrs...but its on 20yrs so far.
 
hey, listen, can we reason for just a minute?

* Yes, most who make money do not need to boast.
* But there are also a number who derive added satisfaction from publicly displaying their skills. Same as many professional traders who go out for drinks and conduct themselves like little boys who still have to prove to the world that they have a dick.
* Among those who look to boast, my point was there is hardly a single soul who derived their profits from TA while there are numerous ones who generated their pnl off the back of fundamentals, quant strategies, quant overlays, momentum discretionary, spreads, volatility. This is my point. If TA works for so many why is there not one among those who do display their skills to the public on this site who bases his trading purely on TA?

Do you get the point now?

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Pls re-read line 1 of my post re. calls.

My point is that not everyone who is profitable is going to bother with posting real-time calls. Why should they, because others do and like high school kids they need to fit in?

Why do you assume that because some want to make calls, others should or else they are fakes, poseurs, whatever?

As for TA gurus, I don't have any. I'm happy to learn from anyone and everyone even if I do not trade the way they do. If something seems interesting, I'll examine it, test it out and see if there is anything there I can incorporate in my system. If there is, good, if not I just move on.

I read every single page of the ACD thread, I skipped every single call. I was only interested in the ideas in that thread.
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Quote from sellindexvol66:

sorry, i stand corrected

i meant "fruitless" in comparison.

ps: my wife is younger than me..but only 3 yrs...but its on 20yrs so far.
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Yes, compared to what should be, and others in the biz-- I agree. However, compared to where I came from, I am not complaining. nice on the 20 years, congrats! surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

I disagree-- when you go to a party, you can take in certain cues about a persons success or lack of success-- however, on the internet all you have is claims-- and some of these claims are quite extraordinary-- therefore a higher standard of proof is required. Rememer, these folks JH, ND, etc have all made claims of market success. that is the issue.


By the same logic, these same folks who make money would not be wasting their time posting here at all. However, the guru types who refuse to post real before the fact calls are prolific posters. see the disconnect in your logic?

surf

PS-- I have posted real before the fact calls since 2002-- some are good some are bad but they are overall profitable.
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Surf, so what?

Personally I feel Hershey's claims are outlandish, have you ever seen me criticising him for making them? His system may or may not work, I looked at it based on what he posted and decided it does not fit in with my preferred style of trading. That does not mean it does not work, or can't, it only means I have not tested it; and I have zero interest in how much he makes, or doesn't.

People can claim whatever they want, we can choose to believe or not to, why this constant need to badger people about calls and blotters and P&L?

Based on what I have seen in your Surfer Alerts thread, I have no reason to believe you are a profitable trader. I leave it at that and don't beat you up about it, or call you a failed trader and try and goad you into providing proof you make money.

That's juvenile crap, and I have better things to do with my time.
 
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